We were ranked number one HR tech focused M&A advisor globally in terms of deal flow, number of deals But it was, basically, we just had the deal flow. Joel: I noticed that a lot of your deals are cross border, they're global. Like, are you feeding calls constantly to get deals done? Deals get announced today are the deals that were launched nine months ago.

Yeah, that is a deep cut because, because we, we go deep here on the show. Everybody. All right. That is a deep cut. That's a very deep cut. Chad (12:09.614) herbs and spices. Chad (39:49.966) Feels like a hoctua meme coin is what it feels like. Yeah, they feel it. This is personal. Chad (45:47.546) They feel it.

We are diving deep into the world of HR technology, tackling workforce challenges with innovative solutions I feel like there's a little bit of a backlash on technology in that there's so much noise. Joel: I feel like the reaction is let's just keep our LinkedIn licenses. They walk into a company and that's old antiquated HR technology we have to deal with. Larry: So I think there's ethical stuff we're going to deal with.

We're going too deep. We're going too deep on Halloween. They're going to have to deal with like how many opt -outs, people are reporting abuse. It does not quite go deep enough, Chad. You don't feel like shit in the morning. Joel (50:19.647) The five mil deal is all good.

Chad: You're going way too deep in the rabbit hole. Joel: Anyway, I got four smokies. I think every country, at least in the advanced world, is dealing with the automation questions. I want to feel that human connection. Chad: That's gonna go away, though. But there's also a really deep human aspect to this in terms of how it's... Chad: Yeah, history. And that to me feels very dystopian. Does it not? Joel: Not just the tip. They got to go all in.

thing you are in Vermont because the only thing that you have to worry about is possibly bears and deer But to me, think, and I say, Chad (13:07.593) deep. Joel (13:08.401) Go deep. I don't really feel like putting all of my resume that you see right here into your application, your And so I, you know, it's exciting, but Joel (21:42.725) What was your least favorite ATS to deal with Feel free to tell us how many people you're connected to, but there are going to be a lot of new grads

They're also Royal. they're also knee deep in this scandal that they used a drone to watch practices So I think it's kind of a greenwashing deal. It's a greenwashing investment. magically decipher where you should end up professionally and what you should do. but to me, this is a feel They're a huge deal, right? And then I think about, okay, well, what if they're just a big deal in Poland?

And they went deep, Chad. SFX: Just the tears. Joel: They went deep on that marketing. [music] SFX: Alright, let's peel the onion. Offices, employees, this feels like an acquihire. or a Broadbean deal. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

I'm sure it was a hell of a deal. Chad, your thoughts on the Cornerstone Skyhive deal. And that's what I feel like this is. I don't feel like anybody's figured this out. It's, it just feels like bullshit to me. That's what this feels like.

with payroll or they're dealing with advancing people. , big deal, Walgreens. They're not dealing in broader society today, they're not dealing with unconscious bias. Coming from a former Chief Diversity Officer until I feel. That's my deal. Joel (19m 38s): Dunky's. Steve (19m 38s): Yes, man.

I mean, because you guys are feeling it much more than we are here across the pond. So this feels like an interview coaching system, am I wrong here? No. Daniel has deep and amazing experience in this space. Terms of the deal are undisclosed. Chad (26m 10s): Sourcebreaker. Bullhorns buy, big deal, no deal or little deal?

, little deal or no deal, your thoughts. I don't think this is a big deal. They peeled. Lieven (12:32.171) are some numbers showing up. Lieven (16:42.797) I totally agree and I feel privacy is extremely important. Where Ronstadt feels like Blockbuster.

It's dealing with human beings and I think that's what we like at House of HR. We're all dealing with candidates. We're all dealing with customers. with the disappointment because it's kind of their role to deal with the disappointment. We then send it to the recruiter who does the matching with the customer, and still they feel it's not Rika Coppens: And this is a human thing where you feel that there has to be this connection between the

And at the end you're like, so what's your deal? What's your deal? What you doing here? Patty Quillen, who's Reed Hastings wife, Dell technologies, Michael Dell and his wife, Susan Dell, Warren So I just feel like. Joel (31:06.286) Mm-hmm. It feels, and it's more and more feeling like an actual conversation with a human being. But I can 100 % attest to that feeling.

I feel so much safer. So I just I feel I feel for people, I feel for people who are the little guy who don't have like the Chad Sowash (26:56.525) Yeah, I really feel like Chad Sowash (27:01.505) It feels it feels like I fell Like you have to deal with people misunderstanding you all the time. Anyway, deep, deep, deep breath, deep breath. Maureen Wiley Clough (48:03.714) Ha ha ha.

🥤 And why is Joel always gassy during deep conversations? So, so yeah, let's, let's get ready for some deep conversations here. so Ankit you wrote, you wrote an What do you really feel? is going to happen. Or do you think we're just going to have to deal with it the way it is right now? Feel free to reach out to me.

and beyond, including recent news about Google and StepStone, shout outs to industry players, and a deep There's going be a lot of money made in this deal. So it wasn't a huge deal. So to be able to get that anchor out from around their neck, that's what this feels like. That's what it feels like. The commission find Google shopping 2 .4 billion euros.

Reunited, and it feels so good. Joel: Are you sure you just didn't feel sick talking to us? In terms of the actual competitive landscape, still very few deals. was just sort of nuts and I had to deal with it, aside from COVID or something macro? Chad: Reunited and it feels so good. Joel: And it feels so good. Teddy Chestnut.

It feels like a desolate place. collar feel, which is not bad. My shout out goes a combo deal. Jason Sudeikis. And that was a huge deal. It almost feels like an aqua hire.

We're both named Chris, which clearly means that we have a deep relationship. Yeah, but here's the deal. And then we created a deal where we could sell the rest of the stock. So in essence, there was, it's like a friends with benefits kind of deal here. We got the deal done.

Chad: What a deal. Or how to deal with high volume? And we realized this is silly, we're not dealing with that. What is the gap? Chad: Yeah. Leaders who are afraid to take on some of the tough issues that we're dealing with, they need to be replaced Joel: For the deep, deep discount. Chad: Discount code Gerry with a G. Joel: G.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Chad: The great rust out. seems like a deal, right? I'm excited to see how this deal plays out. I feel like there's a marginal-line analogy in there somewhere. But it feels, this sure feels like a constant tug of war between technology and human beings.

How does that feel? Josh: Loving it. I can't wait. Joel: Loving it, can't wait. I know you go really deep, but how do you balance not going too deep where you lose people and customers Josh: Well, you'll have to call me out if I'm, if I'm going too deep on it. But yeah, sometimes those things feel like dotted line metrics or things that have gotten passed down This report is like 35 pages and it goes, it goes deep.

Joel Cheesman (03:08.85) Is this really a big deal to begin with? (03:32.454) It's amazing that we think about this stupid little shit when there's bigger issues to deal Joel Cheesman (14:15.808) It's very personalized. it's a very feel good kind of situation. There are going to be certain flavors of it, of course, but it feels like fiber is finally growing up At least that's what it feels like.

on. to their workloads for very sensitive matters that other occupations don't necessarily have to deal Needleman (08:33.763) It just breaks his heart. feels like he's constantly under a dark cloud. And then you feel like you're on an island. Needleman (13:25.282) we feel hurt and sometimes the messenger is the one who ends up taking that. They feel like now's our time to stand up and be a real leader, real helper.

Hopefully they don't delete it because they feel like I don't need to do this because I got three other And we're already working on some deals that could be rather large going through that. So tell me what would this actually cost for an organization you're talking about six figure deals. How big is a company like that where are you going to be hitting six figure deals? Joel (24m 43s): If you can throw whiskey in the deal, then I'll be in on it too.

Chad Sowash: So how does it feel to be out? Keith Sonderling: It's nice. And employees are feeling that they're able to come and file a charge of discrimination or talk to HR Keith Sonderling: And you'll deal with. You could deal with the consequences later. If you feel like you need an accommodation, you need to go to HR versus the reality of it, say, yeah,

It's the agency that deals with all civil rights in the workplace. How do you deal with that process? So that's why I feel it's my job to start to talk about this as much as I can. Commissioner charges are generally a very big deal. To sort of deal with those issues.

So feel free to name drop. Stefan Premdas: Absolutely. So my story is actually kind of fun. People want to stay, they want to feel like they have a voice here, but also feel like they have a career When I first walked through the door, my team was about 12 deep and we brought that down. It feels like a Patagonia type brand that you stay the course. I don't have to deal with the people issues or employee relations. I got a lot of fun stuff.

Yeah, it's kind of a big deal, and the boys grill Mulder on the benefits, competitive landscape and potential thing about our capability now is that we're combining this large language model with our proprietary deep We're basically breaking up with our deep learning parser, the CV into bits, and then sending that into Gerard Mulder: We were the first to release deep learning-based parsing engine.

Alright, best overall, technology goes to Rippling, the best budget goes to Deal... The best deal is a at Deal, if you know, I'm saying Chad. Best for small businesses goes to Gusto. SFX: Can you feel the tension here right now. I know I can. I can feel it all the way down to my plums. It's like, Joe Shaker always says, make a friend, make a deal.

How do you feel about this news on hybrid work? Chad (18:06.263) Yeah, I think it just makes sense. I feel feel I feel so comfortable just not being on the show every now and again. Big deal. Anybody can do that now with the chat GPT. But what about the coaching side of the house? Exciting, but ultimately I feel like in the bigger picture, LinkedIn feels. like a social network that I don't feel like they've gone off the deep end with political stuff. they've, they've implemented a

They're the nice, soft, silky ones that feel like a hug from Chad and Cheese. Well, she's the 35 year old co-founder and chief revenue officer of deal. Joel (15:49.582) A deal surpassed 500 million in revenue. She co-founded an air purification company before founding Deal. And it feels like the latter is happening. Joel (39:34.552) Mm-hmm.

You'd think that would have put that portion of the business completely on its heels. Chad's former life was knee deep in this stuff. Mine less so. I can feel it Jeremy. Speak to me baby. Jeremy Mancheski (10:47.822) Sure. That's right. I think we saw AI recruiting early on that was deemed in some instances even discriminatory. Boy, we all went off the same deep end, for lack of a better term, on that during COVID.

mission to help companies build trust in their A.I. and if you’re looking at giving your vendors a deep Deep Blue is what it was. Chad: Oh, yeah. Deep Blue and Kasparov, right? Guru Sethupathy: Yes. That's a big deal. You have to put guardrails around this stuff. You still need humans in the loop. We dig deep into it. It feels like the background check business to me.

And that's a reality that we all have to deal with. But it feels like I could be wrong, but it feels like that there's a cycle that's happening. Deep research just said, I don't have the transcripts, don't know. If they really want the deep insights, they actually have to listen. Chad (29:26.701) Feels like. Malcolm Frank (29:29.45) Yeah.

And the organization is going to get a deep discount on the price. But our average deal size is between $40,000 and $65,000 right now. And then you just said your typical deal is over $50,000 a year. So you're dealing with huge companies, right? Chad (34:32.366) 65. Scott Morris (PropulsionAI) (34:43.683) We're dealing with organizations.

this sharp, fast-paced episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, moderator Chad Sowash hosts a "Skills Duel Listen now to find out who wins the duel. This is what we're calling the "Skills Duel." For all of you out there, my name is Chad Sowash. Here's how the duel will run: each participant will have a two-minute opening statement. Chad: So, Maya, how would you deal with that?

I feel much better after the the twenty two minute twenty two minute nap. But that's good. So Deal Deal and Rippling, as we've been talking about for a while, and we'll get to HiBob in a second But but yeah, here here we go, Snoop pimp and deal. Chad Sowash (13:53.755) Let's do it. They may have approached Deal, they may have approached Rippling and some others. Chad Sowash (53:03.907) And it feels like segregation again though, right?

They actually have to engage in order to feel better. Makes me feel better in that respect. you know, great. Like, feel like I have to give a tip. So I spend more money. Musicians on LinkedIn, JT, big deal, little deal or no deal. And he has deals with us bank and Taco bell.

Those lovely, lovely t -shirts, new guns and roses, feels like a hug from Chad and cheese. They count companies like open door Reddit and deal. There's deal again, as clients founded in 2018, they employ 130 folks. They get a bigger competitor to deal with and they get one less competitor in terms of seek. We are finally getting into, I feel, an area where unions are gonna gain more strength.

Should others get knee-deep in the search engine’s employment technology or say bye-bye-bye?

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Joel: To charge more for MLS. The merger is estimated to be a $50 million deal. Joel: Now going to the WebMD deal. Chad: Oh, geez. Yeah. This feels a lot like a bridge loan... I know you have a daughter, so I don't know how you feel about that.

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Jason Putnam (03:43.975) They feel, obviously we're an assessment company, but they feel assessed. They feel like they're doing it without something in return. That means you have to have all the data, as deep of amount of data as you can on a human and then be If you wanted to go work for Dell, you move to Austin. If you didn't want to move to Austin, you don't go work for Dell. Right.

Joel (2m 21s): Definitely has a Waterloo feel to it. Chad, is this Flux deal ready to hit 88 miles per hour? Or is it out of time? So even he knows that he can't get away with saying that they're a big deal. How do we make them feel special? How do we make them feel connected to the culture based on, you know, whatever the hell, make them feel

I know how that feels. Joel Cheesman (01:52.015) All right. Well, congratulations. And it didn't feel like back then. there was as much pressure. It's not a big deal. And sometimes I feel like a little bit like an employee, right? And so you're going to have to deal with it.

George: And I put out a quarterly, I cover every deal day in day out at Deals worth over 100 million and half of those were worth over 300 million. George: We had a, a high, a good deal volume D D the number of deals didn't It's, it's good to see deals coming in from other places. And so here's the deal.

wants to prove they can change the Recruiting Industry so they stepped up to the mic, reached down deep

How do you feel? Looking back, how do you feel about last week? Joel (2m 10s): Yes. And this deal does a few things. Okay. So we're not talking about a huge deal. Chad (20m 33s): No. The deal was priced assumed at around $25 million or less. The Muse who's always down for a dumb deal, said, Sure.