After their last CEO ejected due to an ISIMS deal that turned sour, just gone. Do you think iSIMs, eightfold, phenom, paradox, any ideas?

Chad Sowash (27:31.811) I'm going to go back to my 20, my second to 2026 prediction that ISIM should Because as we've seen over the years, a company like an iSIMS or a Phenom will have AI as a feature,

ISIMS could be on. I mean, iSIMS had leadership change.

The hardest issue for me is that the integrations into the platforms, the ISIMs and smart recruiters,

Jennifer is now VP of marketing at PandoLogic, a sponsor of the show and was formerly at ICMs. Remember that guy, Chief Strategy Officer over at ISIMs, Peter Baylew Hungary's most important HR tech So maybe it's time to start thinking about Outmatch as a competitor to, you know, job bite ISIMs and

consult with on a weekly basis people like Tony Fogel who has Tri Search Company or Colin Day who built ISIMS

No mention of integrations to workday, SAP, ISIMS.

Well, they're going through some iSims Brian Provost style CEO shuffle over there.

Career Builder, ISIMs, maybe the only one that hasn't been yet is House of HR.

I mean, the validation with the you know, isims acquisition acquisition a little while ago.

I can't wait for Greenhouse or iSIMS or whoever to go public... Chad: Not for us, dude.

Kids friend of the show Death Match winner, and now the VP of Product Strategy at iSims.

You know, I, I thought Chad, like we talked about ISIMS, I don't know if it was last week or recently

I'll make another quick shout out, to candidate .fyi. our friend Colin day founder and CEO of Isims who

Chad: ICBM started the war. [laughter] Jason: Let's seek refuge in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Joel Cheesman (54:48.744) So, people will know Joe Essenfeld, founder of Jive, who was acquired by ISIMS

Chad (20:11.721) Yeah, depends. think because iSims has been, they've sponsored before and then they

were using, Kenexa BrassRing had 10% of the market, number four in the top five, and twice as much as ISIMS

We talked to investors in companies like ISIMS, who's very closely tied to Vista.

In 2020, I mean, I was working with Recruits Soft and iSims 18 years ago doing this shit and we still

Talking to Collin Day at iCIMSs Google just marches on as a source for traffic. Today it's a solid third place in terms of driving traffic to iCIMSs clients.

ISIMS and Jobvite are buying everyone they can to create one platform system.

ISIM, TextRecruit, hint, hint. Yeah, buy some people, get your Monster on and buy people.