Jim Stroud Talks Automation, Ethics & Paranoia


It's THE recruiting and sourcing legend Jimmy Stroud. He's seen it and done it all people.

On this UNCOMMON exclusive, the boys cover everything from automation, the future of sourcing and why he doesn't want Google to know what he's up to... Wait did someone say DuckDuckGo? And we tackle the question of "Recruiter Ethics" posed to us by our main man Roy Mauer over at SHRM.

Grab a tinfoil hat and enjoy this most excellent episode.

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Joel: Dude, you need to tone it down. I was just napping. You mean Uncommon's automated sourcing that turns passive candidates into interested and qualified applications?

Chad: Yep. Uncommon automation helps recruiters cut their sourcing time by 75%.

Joel: Wow, how much coffee did you have today?

Chad: A lot.

Joel: Anyway, dude, 75%. That sounds like black magic or something.

Chad: Close, it's called automation. It's simple, actually. You just feed or post your jobs in Uncommon. The platform identifies your job requirements and in seconds, Uncommon uses those requirements to search over 150 million candidate profiles, and then it pulls back only the qualified candidates.

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Joel: Which means you won't be asking yourself, what in the hell is this candidate doing here?

Chad: No, but you will be asking yourself, where has Uncommon been all my life?

Joel: Seriously? Uncommon is the easiest way to find qualified candidates, active or passive.

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Chad: It's Jim Stroud.

Jim: Hello.

Joel: It's the tinfoil hat edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: As we were talking before the show, our good buddy Jim Stroud. I don't even know what title you like now, Jim, but everyone probably knows you that's listening, or they should.

Jim: You have a small audience.

Joel: Give us just a quick intro of you and we'll get into the paranoia that we've talked about before the show.

Jim: Yes, you can call me a consultant these days. I have been in sourcing and recruiting for two decades working for such companies as Google, Microsoft, Siemens, and a host of startup companies. Until quite recently, I was the head of sourcing and recruiting strategy for Randstad Sourceright, now consulting for my favorite clients.

Joel: Your Twitter handle and your new podcast.

Jim: Sure, my Twitter handle, I have two. One is @jimstroud. There I tweet about, excuse me, HR and job search issues. There is my other Twitter which is @jimstroudshow, where I talk about my podcast, which is The Jim Stroud Podcast, because I couldn't think of anything else to call it. There, I talk about future issues, like my latest show was on barcoding the homeless.

Chad: What?

Joel: What was that about? Was that like the microchipping of employees that we talk about?

Jim: No, no, no. It's not as insidious. Okay, so there's this company in the UK. They're dealing with the homeless problem in a very unique way. They are giving QR codes to homeless people. They are wearables. They are not tattoos, which is coming out.

Chad: Not yet, yes, yes.

Jim: Not yet.

Joel: Yeah.

Jim: So they're getting these barcodes, and if someone says, "Hey, brother, can you spare a dime?" You can say, "Oh, dude, I don't have any money." They can say, "Well, you know what? Download this app and scan this QR code and you can send me a dollar or $5 or $10. Whatever you so desire, and when you look me up on this app, it will show you not only my face and name to verify if you're talking to the right person but also will give you a brief history of how I became homeless."

Joel: See, I think this would be a great recruiting strategy for salespeople. So you can see ... You take the best homeless people that getting the most money, and you turn them into salespeople. Genius.

Chad: Now, panhandling's not easy, that's for damn sure, right?

Joel: Hell, yeah. You gotta sell your ass off if you're gonna make some money on the streets.

Jim: It is true. It is true. When I was researching this, what was more interesting to me was not only the fact of what it was happening, but all the comments people were giving in response to it. I thought some of the comments were like, they went from, gosh. They went from rude to snarky to just mildly sympathetic. Some, and they reminded me so much of The Chad & Cheese Show.

Chad: Mildly sympathetic.

Joel: Mildly sympathetic. That's good.

Jim: One person said, "It's a trap. If you try to scan it with your phone, then the homeless person will just snatch your phone and run."

Chad: It's a trap.

Jim: That's a Chad comment.

Chad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a trap. They're gonna take your shit.

Joel: So then, can they use that QR code to go into Starbucks or wherever and get a muffin? Is that how that works?

Jim: No, how it works is, okay. Once you're in the program, there are a few things you can do with the money, right? They have a good Samaritan or somebody on the backend who's actually monitoring how the money is used. So you can use it, and these are some of the uses that they cited. They don't cite all of them. They only cited a couple of them in articles I read. One was for a passport, because if you're homeless, you need a passport.

Chad: What the fuck.

Jim: Obviously.

Joel: What? Get out of our country, homeless person.

Chad: On the Euro side, right?

Jim: Yeah, and then the other example they gave was to collect money for a deposit on a rental space. So if you collect enough money through panhandling, you can have enough money to rent your own apartment, which gives the question of how you pay for it the rest of the year once you have your first and second month down.

Joel: Those sound like serious milestones.

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