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Indeed Goes For The Kill
This week on HR’s most dangerous podcast, Chad, Mo, and Lieven tackle Indeed’s sneaky play to squeeze out recruiting agencies , an age-bias lawsuit putting IBM in hot water , and the fraudulent "job slop" infiltrating ChatGPT’s new search tool. Plus, Meta forces staff to train the AI meant to replace them. Tune in for big tech drama, corporate dystopia, and an awful binary dad joke. Listen at chadcheese.com!
Chad Sowash
2 days ago


Marriott Hiring: 2 Weeks to 3 Days w/ Meghan Rhatigan
Chad & Joel grill Marriott’s Meghan Rhatigan on hiring 200k global workers. Trapped with a "fat funnel" and hiring managers taking 2 weeks to schedule interviews, Meghan snuck Paradox past legal by calling it "automation" instead of AI. Process dropped to 3 days! Plus, she’s weaponized a 5M candidate CRM and shaded peers stuck crying, "But we have Workday..." We out.
Chad Sowash
5 days ago


Job Slop by Google & OpenAI
The Chad & Cheese Show Notes: Joel-Free June! Chad holds down the fort with Emi Beredugo & JT O'Donnell. This week: Stepstone boots its CEO, JobGet buys Ripple Match, & George Larocque warns that standalone point solutions are dead. Plus, Julie exposes the Job.com grift, Zuck docks his superyacht post-layoffs, OpenAI Job Slop & an AI accent fail. Catch us at Recfest! Free swag at chadandcheese.com/free. We out!
Chad Sowash
Jun 5


AI Answered 1.8m Questions w/ Patti Tabris
Patti Tabris of ResultsCX joins Chad and Cheese to reveal how AI transformed their global hiring. By deploying "Olivia," an AI assistant that answered 1.8M questions, she boosted assessment completion from 30% to 90%. Learn how she cut application times to under 6 minutes and automated 100,000 interviews to let recruiters focus on the human side of the job.
Chad Sowash
May 26


Ace Hardware: Differentiate or Die
Ace Hardware’s Stef Nikitas and Kaleigh Burns join Chad & Cheese to reveal "Project Hurricane," the overhaul that scaled their TA budget from $500k to $4M. Learn how "Grace," their AI bot, automates scheduling so recruiters can focus on being human. From 2-minute apps to surviving a 10-day tech blackout , see how a 100-year-old brand wins the talent war.
Chad Sowash
May 19


iCIMS Shuffles, Phenom Splurges, & Greenhouse Gets Fashionable
Is iCIMS facing a final fire sale? Chad and Joel break down the "CFO takeover" and Phenom's latest "psychobabble" acquisition. Plus, Greenhouse buys Ezra AI to "look fashionable," and J.T. O'Donnell reveals LinkedIn's $450M AI secret. "Who’d You Rather" returns with a birthday showdown! HR’s most dangerous podcast is back.
Chad Sowash
May 8


Personio Stays Home
Personio hit Q1 2026 profit but lacked transparency, choosing a "stay home" move over a "go big" moment. Tech giants are firing staff to fund AI. The UK outpaces the US in healthcare and leave. Palantir faces ethical backlash , Nomad Health pivots to software , and LinkedIn gets a new CEO to survive AI.
Chad Sowash
May 1


Bots Gone Wild
Joel and JT break down the seismic shifts rocking the industry, from a massive restructuring wave hitting giants like Meta, Disney, and Snap to the high-profile leadership exits at JobCase, SeekOut and Bots!
Joel Cheesman
Apr 24


Data Wars with Rebecca Car
In this episode of Mallorca Talks, Chad Sowash and SmartRecruiters CEO Rebecca Carr discuss AI's future. Carr argues that corporate ego, not tech, hinders innovation by creating "walled gardens". With 120 SAP engineers, they are building an ecosystem where Slack, WhatsApp, and AI agents collaborate to free humans from admin bloat and unlock creativity.
Chad Sowash
Apr 21


Radical Transparency w/ Allyn Bailey
Stop pretending your 2012-era ATS works. Recruiting is being rewritten, and the "Candidate Black Hole" is finally closing. Allyn Bailey and Chad Sowash break down why static resumes are dead and why radical transparency—from salary to real-time scoring—is the new reality. AI isn't just a tool; it’s redistributing power. If you’re still hoarding data instead of connecting it, you’ve already lost.
Chad Sowash
Apr 14


Grayscale Evolves & BLS Lies?
This week, Chad and JT expose the "Two Weeks" mirage. The BLS jobs report looks like a boom, but it’s just striking workers and melting snow. Paylocity buys Grayscale to join the AI agent arms race , while Clasp steals Uncle Sam’s 1916 playbook to fix healthcare. Plus, Jack Dorsey wants to kill middle management with machine-readable "artifacts". We out!
Chad Sowash
Apr 10


Mercor Hack - Findem Smack
HR’s most dangerous podcast is back! We dive into Mercor’s 4TB data breach and the Senate’s probe into Findem’s 418k opt-out requests. Is AI killing capitalism or just LinkedIn’s live streams? From Melania’s teacher bots to Chad’s new tattoo and Emi’s "genetic blessings," we’re stripping it all down. Listen now!
Chad Sowash
Apr 3


Recruiting Rewired w/ Shiran Yaroslavsky
Can AI finally kill HR friction? Chad Sowash talks with Shiran Yaroslavsky on the shift from complex dashboards to agentic workflows. Shiran breaks down "agent orchestration," waking up idle talent databases, and why AI auditing is non-negotiable for trust. From TikTok outreach to slashing ATS migration from months to weeks, learn how Shiran is architecting the future of hiring.
Chad Sowash
Mar 31


Break Everything with Rebecca Carr
Mallorca, sun’s out and Rebecca Carr is burning down recruiting as we know it. ATS? Dead. AI agents? Running the show. SmartRecruiters goes from commodity to SAP power play while most companies cling to broken tech stacks. If your hiring strategy still looks like 2015… yeah, you’re already toast.
Chad Sowash
Mar 17


Ghosting, Grinding, and Getting Screwed: Job Search in 2026
The job market is a mess. Jillian O’Malior joins Chad, Cheese, and JT to break down 600 job applications, endless interviews, ghosting recruiters, and roles that disappear after months of hiring theater. We dig into AI resume spam, shrinking salaries, ATS black holes, and why today’s hiring process makes candidates feel less human and more like data points.
Chad Sowash
Mar 10


Will ICIMS AI Coalesce?
Fresh paint, same problems? iCIMS launches a new brand, Indeed finally hires a CTO, and companies blame AI for layoffs while others promise AI training. Chad & Cheese unpack the hype, the leadership shakeups, and the never-ending HR tech buzzword parade.
Chad Sowash
Mar 6


Swiftynomics w/ Misty Heggeness
Economists, Swifties, and HR chaos collide. Misty Heggeness joins the boys to talk Taylor’s economic empire, women building their own power systems, AI bias, and why trickle-down is on life support. Census Bureau nerds, pandemic wine writing, and peak Chad & Cheese snark included.
Chad Sowash
Mar 3


Stepstone Spins & Kombo Wins
Hold onto your scotch—Chad and the ladies are back for a cheese-free episode of HR’s most dangerous podcast. This week: StepStone is spinning stats, JT warns of Silicon Valley’s "superstar" obsession, and Emi calls BS on corporate hype. From Olympic Village condom shortages to Nantucket’s cocaine-filled sewers, it’s a chaotic deep dive into the industry’s messiest corners. Don’t be average.
Chad Sowash
Feb 27


Unfolding the Eightfold Lawsuit
Bots “enriching hiring and society”? Sure, if by scraping your data, guessing your personality, and ghosting you with a smiley match score. Chad & Cheese break down the Eightfold lawsuit with attorney Rachel Dempsey, unpacking AI black boxes, FCRA risk, and why “ethical AI” might be the biggest buzzword in recruiting.
Chad Sowash
Feb 17


Indeed's Pricing Black Box
Recruit kicks things off by squeezing employers with Indeed’s black-box pricing just as the market tightens. Then it’s pure chaos: HR tech shakeups, AI hype rattling SaaS, bots invading job search, and lawsuits circling hiring platforms. Toss in Super Bowl ad shade and job-market anxiety… and yeah, things get spicy fast.
Chad Sowash
Feb 13


Talent's Big Reckoning w/ Quincy Valencia
The “Big Reckoning” is coming. AI is speeding up hiring—but also exposing every broken process, silo, and fake “collaboration” in talent orgs. Execs spent the money and now want real results, not pretty dashboards. When better talent doesn’t show up, leaders—not the tech—take the hit. Robots move faster… outcomes stay mediocre. Buckle up.
Chad Sowash
Feb 10


Are Job Boards Solving the Hiring Problem?
Are job boards fixing hiring or just selling more clicks? 🤔 Chad & Cheese welcome Lou Goodman (*Job Board Revolution*) and Jobiqo CEO Martin Lenz to torch volume-based hiring, “quality vs. qualified,” broken ATSs, AI agents, and the future of job boards. Are they evolving… or quietly dying?
Chad Sowash
Feb 3


Eightfold Gets Served
AI finally does what it does best: gets companies sued. This week, Eightfold gets served over secret AI scores and “responsible AI” that doesn’t feel very legal. Randstad says everything’s great while 40% of workers grab second jobs. Davos CEOs predict job losses, preach adaptation, and pass the mess to government. Trust is broken. Reality is optional. Buckle up.
Chad Sowash
Jan 30


Stop Blaming AI w/ Allie Kelly
Is AI really killing white-collar jobs or is that just the excuse?
The Chad & Cheese sit down with Allie Kelly of Business Insider to break down layoffs, hiring freezes, disappearing entry-level roles, and why interest rates, tariffs, and Fed policy, not robots, are doing the real damage. If you’ve been told "AI did it," this episode hits different.
Chad Sowash
Jan 27
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