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HR’s most dangerous podcast is back! We dive into Mercor’s 4TB data breach and the Senate’s probe into Findem’s 418k opt-out requests. Is AI killing capitalism or just LinkedIn’s live streams? From Melania’s teacher bots to Chad’s new tattoo and Emi’s "genetic blessings," we’re stripping it all down. Listen now!

Can AI finally kill HR friction? Chad Sowash talks with Shiran Yaroslavsky on the shift from complex dashboards to agentic workflows. Shiran breaks down "agent orchestration," waking up idle talent databases, and why AI auditing is non-negotiable for trust. From TikTok outreach to slashing ATS migration from months to weeks, learn how Shiran is architecting the future of hiring.

Mallorca, sun’s out and Rebecca Carr is burning down recruiting as we know it. ATS? Dead. AI agents? Running the show. SmartRecruiters goes from commodity to SAP power play while most companies cling to broken tech stacks. If your hiring strategy still looks like 2015… yeah, you’re already toast.

The job market is a mess. Jillian O’Malior joins Chad, Cheese, and JT to break down 600 job applications, endless interviews, ghosting recruiters, and roles that disappear after months of hiring theater. We dig into AI resume spam, shrinking salaries, ATS black holes, and why today’s hiring process makes candidates feel less human and more like data points.

Fresh paint, same problems? iCIMS launches a new brand, Indeed finally hires a CTO, and companies blame AI for layoffs while others promise AI training. Chad & Cheese unpack the hype, the leadership shakeups, and the never-ending HR tech buzzword parade.

Economists, Swifties, and HR chaos collide. Misty Heggeness joins the boys to talk Taylor’s economic empire, women building their own power systems, AI bias, and why trickle-down is on life support. Census Bureau nerds, pandemic wine writing, and peak Chad & Cheese snark included.

Hold onto your scotch—Chad and the ladies are back for a cheese-free episode of HR’s most dangerous podcast. This week: StepStone is spinning stats, JT warns of Silicon Valley’s "superstar" obsession, and Emi calls BS on corporate hype. From Olympic Village condom shortages to Nantucket’s cocaine-filled sewers, it’s a chaotic deep dive into the industry’s messiest corners. Don’t be average.

Bots “enriching hiring and society”? Sure, if by scraping your data, guessing your personality, and ghosting you with a smiley match score. Chad & Cheese break down the Eightfold lawsuit with attorney Rachel Dempsey, unpacking AI black boxes, FCRA risk, and why “ethical AI” might be the biggest buzzword in recruiting.

Recruit kicks things off by squeezing employers with Indeed’s black-box pricing just as the market tightens. Then it’s pure chaos: HR tech shakeups, AI hype rattling SaaS, bots invading job search, and lawsuits circling hiring platforms. Toss in Super Bowl ad shade and job-market anxiety… and yeah, things get spicy fast.

The “Big Reckoning” is coming. AI is speeding up hiring—but also exposing every broken process, silo, and fake “collaboration” in talent orgs. Execs spent the money and now want real results, not pretty dashboards. When better talent doesn’t show up, leaders—not the tech—take the hit. Robots move faster… outcomes stay mediocre. Buckle up.

Are job boards fixing hiring or just selling more clicks? 🤔 Chad & Cheese welcome Lou Goodman (*Job Board Revolution*) and Jobiqo CEO Martin Lenz to torch volume-based hiring, “quality vs. qualified,” broken ATSs, AI agents, and the future of job boards. Are they evolving… or quietly dying?

AI finally does what it does best: gets companies sued. This week, Eightfold gets served over secret AI scores and “responsible AI” that doesn’t feel very legal. Randstad says everything’s great while 40% of workers grab second jobs. Davos CEOs predict job losses, preach adaptation, and pass the mess to government. Trust is broken. Reality is optional. Buckle up.

Is AI really killing white-collar jobs or is that just the excuse? The Chad & Cheese sit down with Allie Kelly of Business Insider to break down layoffs, hiring freezes, disappearing entry-level roles, and why interest rates, tariffs, and Fed policy, not robots, are doing the real damage. If you’ve been told "AI did it," this episode hits different.

The gang covers Indeed, LinkedIn, Artisan and ChatGPT news.

It’s prediction season — and chaos season. Chad, Cheese, and Lieven review how wrong (and occasionally right) 2025 predictions were, then unleash bold 2026 calls: AI eating jobs, agencies bleeding out, Indeed tightening control, robots going physical, and authenticity getting faker than ever. Predictions are never wrong… they just haven’t happened yet.

Chad & Joel go deep with Kim Storin, CMO of Zoom, on brand, AI, and why marketing lost its soul chasing MQLs. Challenger mindset, Bowen Yang, human-in-the-loop AI, CFO wrangling, and why trust beats demand gen. If you think marketing, recruiting, and employer brand are separate… this episode will hurt (in a good way).

2025 didn’t just rattle HR. Nope, it ripped the curtain down and set it on fire. Job boards hoarded hiring data, HR tech rivals flirted with espionage, PE bled legacy platforms dry, and founders played chess while workers paid. Add AI ghosting resumes, Slack DMs as evidence, LinkedIn as a minefield, and recruiters stuck in the blast zone. Pass the popcorn. 🍿

The Chad & Cheese Holiday Show is a greatest-hits remix of 2025’s smartest, spiciest hiring conversations. AI hype, fake applicants, job boards losing power, smarter recruiting, and leaders who actually tell the truth. One episode. All the chaos. Press play and start 2026 smarter.

Chad, Cheese, and Mo drop their 2025 Naughty & Nice lists. Praising leaders who owned their messes and roasting companies that face-planted hard. From Amazon’s brutal layoffs and SHRM’s courtroom fail to HR tech espionage, ColdplayGate, bourbon giveaways, and dad jokes HR would ban this episode pulls zero punches.

On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel & Chad sit down with Ora Marketing co-founder Alexis Meschi to torch bad AI buying habits, lazy LinkedIn “thought leadership,” and tools that kill workflow instead of revenue. A sharp checklist for recruiters who want results—not AI sugar highs.

LinkedIn verifies 100M profiles, Findem straps 800 niche job boards to an AI rocket, and Walmart proves paying people actually works. Meanwhile, UKG and CultureAmp drop holiday layoffs, JT declares job boards dead, Chad compares TA to NFL QB chaos, and Joel brings back the Three Wise Cocks bourbon giveaway. Hide your kids—Chad & Cheese is back.

Charlene Li joins Chad & Cheese to roast why 95% of AI pilots fail, why CEOs treat AI like a shiny toy, and how HR can finally grab a real seat at the table. From “shadow AI” to “speed is the new moat,” this episode packs insights, chaos, and Taco Bell–level danger. Tune in or get left behind.

VONQ drops a Hollywood-style launch, Indeed builds even higher walls, Instagram forces RTO, and Australia boots kids off social media. Plus unions and staffing unite against AI, Home Depot protest caroling, and peak holiday chaos. Buckle up — Chad, JT, and Lieven are on fire this week.

The Chad & Cheese dive into the rising storm of I-9 compliance with OutSolve’s Desiree Throckmorton. With ICE’s $170B budget surge and 15,000 inspections coming in 2026, sloppy I-9s can mean fines up to $27K per violation. Remote checks, wrong docs, missing fields—everything’s fair game. Add skyrocketing H-1B fees and recent raids, and Desiree warns: audit now, centralize records, and get ICE-ready or get burned.