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The hottest podcast in Human Resources, Talent Acquisition, and Talent Management.



Hiring, We Have a Problem: AI
Grab a beverage for a special "just us girls" episode featuring Joel Cheesman and Maureen “Moe” Clough. This week, the duo delivers a light-hearted yet substantive look into worker backlash against artificial intelligence and today's brutal hiring market.
Joel Cheesman
5 days ago


iCIMS Shuffles, Phenom Splurges, & Greenhouse Gets Fashionable
Is iCIMS facing a final fire sale? Chad and Joel break down the "CFO takeover" and Phenom's latest "psychobabble" acquisition. Plus, Greenhouse buys Ezra AI to "look fashionable," and J.T. O'Donnell reveals LinkedIn's $450M AI secret. "Who’d You Rather" returns with a birthday showdown! HR’s most dangerous podcast is back.
Chad Sowash
May 8


Personio Stays Home
Personio hit Q1 2026 profit but lacked transparency, choosing a "stay home" move over a "go big" moment. Tech giants are firing staff to fund AI. The UK outpaces the US in healthcare and leave. Palantir faces ethical backlash , Nomad Health pivots to software , and LinkedIn gets a new CEO to survive AI.
Chad Sowash
May 1


Bots Gone Wild
Joel and JT break down the seismic shifts rocking the industry, from a massive restructuring wave hitting giants like Meta, Disney, and Snap to the high-profile leadership exits at JobCase, SeekOut and Bots!
Joel Cheesman
Apr 24


LinkedIn 'Shakes and Gen Z Breaks
2026 is wild: the Pope is "weak on crime" and CEOs are dodging Molotovs. Chad and Joel expose the AI "Side Hustle Seduction," where experts get paid to train their own replacements. While Zuck builds bunkers and digital clones , Gen Z fears for their wages and creativity. Plus, Humanly buys an Ant Hill. We out!
Chad Sowash
Apr 17


Grayscale Evolves & BLS Lies?
This week, Chad and JT expose the "Two Weeks" mirage. The BLS jobs report looks like a boom, but it’s just striking workers and melting snow. Paylocity buys Grayscale to join the AI agent arms race , while Clasp steals Uncle Sam’s 1916 playbook to fix healthcare. Plus, Jack Dorsey wants to kill middle management with machine-readable "artifacts". We out!
Chad Sowash
Apr 10


Mercor Hack - Findem Smack
HR’s most dangerous podcast is back! We dive into Mercor’s 4TB data breach and the Senate’s probe into Findem’s 418k opt-out requests. Is AI killing capitalism or just LinkedIn’s live streams? From Melania’s teacher bots to Chad’s new tattoo and Emi’s "genetic blessings," we’re stripping it all down. Listen now!
Chad Sowash
Apr 3


Indeed Desperation & Vibe-Coder Rise
In this episode of the Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys dive into the escalating "cage match" between Indeed and LinkedIn. They break down Indeed’s aggressive new spend-matching program, questioning if it’s a genuine incentive or a tactical data grab for competitive intelligence. Meanwhile, LinkedIn counters with AI-managed interviews. Plus, a look at vibe-coding and Travis Kalanick’s robots.
Chad Sowash
Mar 20


Will ICIMS AI Coalesce?
Fresh paint, same problems? iCIMS launches a new brand, Indeed finally hires a CTO, and companies blame AI for layoffs while others promise AI training. Chad & Cheese unpack the hype, the leadership shakeups, and the never-ending HR tech buzzword parade.
Chad Sowash
Mar 6


Stepstone Spins & Kombo Wins
Hold onto your scotch—Chad and the ladies are back for a cheese-free episode of HR’s most dangerous podcast. This week: StepStone is spinning stats, JT warns of Silicon Valley’s "superstar" obsession, and Emi calls BS on corporate hype. From Olympic Village condom shortages to Nantucket’s cocaine-filled sewers, it’s a chaotic deep dive into the industry’s messiest corners. Don’t be average.
Chad Sowash
Feb 27


Indeed Smart Screen Dumps
Indeed’s “smart” screening hits turbulence — launches, pullbacks, and black-box scoring raising eyebrows. The boys unpack the mess, plus LinkedIn’s comedy pivot, Google monetizing Jobs, Phenom’s AI shopping spree, and white-collar extinction hype. Innovation… or chaos?
Chad Sowash
Feb 20


Indeed's Pricing Black Box
Recruit kicks things off by squeezing employers with Indeed’s black-box pricing just as the market tightens. Then it’s pure chaos: HR tech shakeups, AI hype rattling SaaS, bots invading job search, and lawsuits circling hiring platforms. Toss in Super Bowl ad shade and job-market anxiety… and yeah, things get spicy fast.
Chad Sowash
Feb 13


Rippling Aims for Super Bowl Win
The duo dives deep into Rippling’s bold Super Bowl debut featuring Tim Robinson, debating whether the "evil genius" move is a brilliant recruitment play or a calculated nod to Wall Street. While Microsoft celebrates a massive LinkedIn revenue milestone.
Joel Cheesman
Feb 6


Eightfold Gets Served
AI finally does what it does best: gets companies sued. This week, Eightfold gets served over secret AI scores and “responsible AI” that doesn’t feel very legal. Randstad says everything’s great while 40% of workers grab second jobs. Davos CEOs predict job losses, preach adaptation, and pass the mess to government. Trust is broken. Reality is optional. Buckle up.
Chad Sowash
Jan 30


Phenom Shops, OpenAI Jobs, & Boomband Launches
Euro Chad is back and HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast is firing on all cylinders.
This week, Chad & Cheese tear into OpenAI chasing ads and $500K salaries, Phenom shopping for AI relevance, Meta quietly ghosting the Metaverse, and Jeff Taylor re-entering the job board arena. Add Delta’s $1.3B profit-sharing flex, Canada’s political mic drop, and AI skepticism galore. Buckle up.
Chad Sowash
Jan 23


Indeed Combats Hot Resume Injections
The gang covers Indeed, LinkedIn, Artisan and ChatGPT news.
Joel Cheesman
Jan 16


2026 Predictions Show
It’s prediction season — and chaos season. Chad, Cheese, and Lieven review how wrong (and occasionally right) 2025 predictions were, then unleash bold 2026 calls: AI eating jobs, agencies bleeding out, Indeed tightening control, robots going physical, and authenticity getting faker than ever. Predictions are never wrong… they just haven’t happened yet.
Chad Sowash
Jan 9


2025 Wrap-Up Show
2025 didn’t just rattle HR. Nope, it ripped the curtain down and set it on fire. Job boards hoarded hiring data, HR tech rivals flirted with espionage, PE bled legacy platforms dry, and founders played chess while workers paid. Add AI ghosting resumes, Slack DMs as evidence, LinkedIn as a minefield, and recruiters stuck in the blast zone. Pass the popcorn. 🍿
Chad Sowash
Jan 2


2025 Holiday Show
The Chad & Cheese Holiday Show is a greatest-hits remix of 2025’s smartest, spiciest hiring conversations. AI hype, fake applicants, job boards losing power, smarter recruiting, and leaders who actually tell the truth. One episode. All the chaos. Press play and start 2026 smarter.
Chad Sowash
Dec 26, 2025


Naughty & Nice 2025
Chad, Cheese, and Mo drop their 2025 Naughty & Nice lists. Praising leaders who owned their messes and roasting companies that face-planted hard. From Amazon’s brutal layoffs and SHRM’s courtroom fail to HR tech espionage, ColdplayGate, bourbon giveaways, and dad jokes HR would ban this episode pulls zero punches.
Chad Sowash
Dec 19, 2025


LinkedIn's Trust Tree
LinkedIn verifies 100M profiles, Findem straps 800 niche job boards to an AI rocket, and Walmart proves paying people actually works. Meanwhile, UKG and CultureAmp drop holiday layoffs, JT declares job boards dead, Chad compares TA to NFL QB chaos, and Joel brings back the Three Wise Cocks bourbon giveaway. Hide your kids—Chad & Cheese is back.
Chad Sowash
Dec 12, 2025


VONQ Goes Hollywood & Indeed Builds a Death Star
VONQ drops a Hollywood-style launch, Indeed builds even higher walls, Instagram forces RTO, and Australia boots kids off social media. Plus unions and staffing unite against AI, Home Depot protest caroling, and peak holiday chaos. Buckle up — Chad, JT, and Lieven are on fire this week.
Chad Sowash
Dec 5, 2025


TURKEYS: Indeed, Randstad, SHRM and...
Chad & Cheese return with the annual Jive Turkey extravaganza—roasting industry clowns, SHRM’s ivory tower, ZipRecruiter’s ghost podcast, dystopian AI layoffs, PE vultures, Messi mayhem, Google’s Gemini flex, and the €6K Dublin spy who nuked his career. Plus guest turkeys from JT, Mo, Julie, Allyn, and Michelle. Grab a drink and gobble up the chaos.
Chad Sowash
Nov 28, 2025


Zoom & Workday Get Busy
Robots doing kung-fu, Russia’s robot doing… whatever that was, a three-legged Rottweiler incident, and Dallas feeling like pre-apocalypse Road Warrior. Chad & Cheese break down Zoom buying BrightHire, Meta grading employees on AI, Verizon cutting 15k jobs, Scotland’s big win, and job seekers using Tinder to land interviews. Chaos? Always.
Chad Sowash
Nov 21, 2025
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