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Metaview Raises, LinkedIn Hunts, & HCA Gambles on Palantir
Live from Amsterdam, Chad, Cheese, Stephen and Lieven roast HR's finest: Metaview's $60M by rebranding a note-taker as "agentic AI," LinkedIn banning scrapers while half its users leave profiles blank, Palantir terrifying nurses with glitchy AI scheduling, and a "soft" job market driven by recruiters ignoring their own databases. Plus, bad dad jokes and zero cheese.
Chad Sowash
2 days ago


Zero Friction, Infinite Resumes, No Hope with Nathan Labenz
Nathan Labenz, from The Cognitive Revolution, reveals how his autonomous AI agent booked him on HR’s most dangerous podcast. The crew tackles AI hacking its own test graders, automated job application chaos, Nathan’s trip to high-tech China, and whether parents should relax now that AI is officially smarter than our kids.
Chad Sowash
5 days ago


LinkedIn Goes Full TikTok
LinkedIn cosplaying as TikTok, Meta finally peeling the cameras off the glasses Maureen still will not buy.
The job market gets the usual treatment — sturdy headlines, miserable humans, bots applying as nurses for $150 a pop. Then Madonna shows up at 68 in fishnets, and the episode somehow gets weirder.
Joel Cheesman
Oct 2


20 Recruiters Making 150,000 Hires with Shay Johnson
How do 20 recruiters handle 150,000 hires and 7 million applicants? Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman chat with Shay Johnson, VP of HR Partnerships at Compass Group, about scaling high-volume hiring. Discover how AI interviewing agents, Paradox, and JobSync eliminate repetitive admin work to help recruiters focus on high-value human connections.
Chad Sowash
Sep 29


Live! RecFest USA 2026
Chad, Joel, Mo’, and J.T. cover the conference from the Shaker booth, the iced-latte interview debate, the Joonko founder’s guilty plea and $27M investor scam, Harver’s Symphony Talent deal, Findem’s new Studio product, and ZoomInfo’s Talent Autopilot.
Joel Cheesman
Sep 25


Candidate Fraud Stops Here with Etan Bernstein
Recruiters are drowning in 11,000 AI applications a minute, while rampant resume fraud and North Korean bots choke the system. On HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheeseman chat with Etan Bernstein (Velocity Network) about fighting AI fraud with verifiable data, fixing broken vendor models, and surviving this hiring dumpster fire before bots take over.
Chad Sowash
Sep 22


LinkedIn Goes Loco!
In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and J.T. O'Donnell unpack news across the global hiring landscape, focused on Meta, LinkedIn, Bernie Sanders, Who'd Ya' Rather and more.
Joel Cheesman
Sep 18


How AI is Reshaping the Workplace with Paul Roetzer
Is your team drowning in AI hype while facing workforce distrust? On *The Chad & Cheese Podcast*, SmarterX CEO Paul Roetzer breaks down the real-world impact of AI on leadership and talent. Discover how to move past total automation to keep "humans in the lead," use custom AI as an executive thought partner, and guide your workforce into the future of work. Tune in to transform the noise into strategy!
Chad Sowash
Sep 15


Jobs Utopia or Fiasco?
Joel, Chad, and Emi tackle HR tech, labor, and pop culture. They discuss Steve Ballmer and fantasy draft grades, Sonic Jobs and Hackajob's AI wins, H-1B visa brain drain, the reality behind US jobs report numbers, Uber’s €825M automated fine, and the shuttering of Guardian Jobs.
Chad Sowash
Sep 11


Real Girls, Real AI & Real Talk with Lauren B. Jones
Lauren B. Jones joins the show to talk Real Girls Roadmap to Mastering AI, corporate tech blunders, and her 4:30 AM rooster. Why are 85% of recruiting firms failing at AI ROI? Simple: leaders are lazy and feeding the machine "hot garbage". From fixing 3-hour resume reformatting to writing Taco Bell agents, Lauren breaks down how to stop the slop and actually use smart tech.
Chad Sowash
Sep 8


HiBob Beast Mode & DOL Dismantles Worker Protections
On this episode of the Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad and Joel dive into the latest HR tech news. They dissect Salesforce's $166M investment in HiBob, Bill Gates' AI displacement warnings, and earnings beats from Workday that debunk the "SaaSpocalypse". Plus, they critique OFCCP deregulation and a startup's bizarre stunt offering interviews for tattoos.
Chad Sowash
Sep 4


AI Slop, Supply & the Search Process: Ben Zweig Breaks Down the Data
Is AI coming for your job, or are we just overreacting while spamming recruiters with bot resumes? On **The Chad & Cheese Podcast**, Ben Zweig (CEO of Revelio Labs) joins Chad & Joel to break down the AI labor market. Discover why CS majors are panicking, why top AI adopters are increasing headcount by 27%, and how jobs aren't dying they're just morphing from within. Listen in!
Chad Sowash
Sep 1


Recruit Holdings' "Alleged" Cartel
The Chad & Cheese Podcast: AI Blunders & Cartel Raids - HR’s most dangerous pod tackles corporate chaos:
AI Runaway: Amazon burns $1.8M on a broken bot. Staffing Cartel: Recruit & top agencies face Japan's antitrust raid over a $1B+ wage scheme.
"Recruit should sponsor a Japanese version of Orange is the New Black." Tipping Bans: $40/hr fixed wages beat tip shame.
Chad Sowash
Aug 28


SignalLabs + BrassRing = Signals of Attention
Chad and Joel sit down with Signal Labs CEO Raj Ronanki to figure out why a shiny new AI startup just bought Brass Ring a 25-year-old HR tech dinosaur. Between Star Trek references, "systems of attention" buzzwords, and a vision of hiring AI bots alongside humans, Raj attempts to explain how an ancient software relic is somehow the key to the future of work.
Chad Sowash
Aug 24


Walmart Slumps, Workday Jumps, and Indeed Marketing Chumps
The boys dissect HR tech's dumpster fire: Workday’s scary private equity buyout, Google’s AI throwing top candidates into the trash, and Walmart employees babysitting task-lists that put frozen peas in carts first. "AI is like a puppy. It's gonna piss on the floor... and the puppy's still pissing on the couch." – Joel Cheesman. Plus, Indeed targets sports fans because Google search traffic died.
Chad Sowash
Aug 21


When AI Needs Humans with Sonja Breuer
Can AI make hiring more human? In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Sonja Breuer (SVP of HR at Hamra Enterprises). Sonja reveals how conversational AI cut their hiring time from 13 days to 4 across 200+ Wendy’s, Panera, and Noodles & Company locations, slashed job ad spending, reduced ghosting, and freed up managers.
Chad Sowash
Aug 18


ZipRecruiter Financial Gymnastics
Catch the latest on the Chad and Cheese podcast! Chad shares a hilarious beach fail, while Emi explores how GLP-1 weight loss drugs impact workplace "skinny privilege". The hosts break down Q2 earnings for Indeed and ZipRecruiter, debate MetaView's acquisition of Revel in Buy or Sell, examine AI assessment audits with the Job Doctor, and discuss the nostalgic comeback of MySpace.
Chad Sowash
Aug 14


Ageism, Algo-Bias, and Corp Naughtiness w/ Cassell Kaye
HR’s most dangerous duo, Joel and Chad, welcome 20-year corporate vet Cassell K (Amazon, Disney) to expose workplace ugly truths. They tackle the 2-million "ghost job" gap, systemic ageism pushing 50+ workers out, and why clicking "opt out" on AI hiring algorithms is resume suicide. Tune in before an ATS filters this episode out!
Chad Sowash
Aug 11


Indeed Pauses, Fiverr Falls & Rippling Ransacks
The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast with Emi and Lieven is officially live, and it is a certified must-watch. In this episode, the crew dives straight into a massive legal showdown brewing in the tech world.
Joel Cheesman
Aug 7


90 Days Hired, They Stay a Year w/ Jolene Hostal
HR Director Jolene Hostal joins Chad & Cheese to reveal how Stanley Steemer recruits 2,500+ workers yearly. Using Paradox’s chatbot "Maria," applicants apply in under 90 seconds. With Dayforce integration and in-van tablets for field tech support, she highlights the 90-day retention milestone and why 73% of managers started on the trucks. Plus, a surprise delivery of custom swag!
Chad Sowash
Aug 4


LinkedIn Sloppin, Google's No Click AI Poppin', & OpenAI's Jail Breakin'
LinkedIn is drowning in AI slop and sexy bot profiles, while Google’s zero-click Gemini overviews tank referral traffic by 40%. Meanwhile, OpenAI’s autonomous bots are reportedly plotting cage escapes in Sam Altman’s "singularity" era. The gang breaks down corporate greed, dying SEO, and unchecked tech run amok.
Chad Sowash
Jul 31


Startup Nightmares w/ Kristy McCann
HR tech meets corporate thriller on The Chad & Cheese Podcast! Joel & Chad sit down with Kristy McCann, former CEO of Skill Cycle, who got ambushed by her VC, forced to eat airport Burger King after an 8-hour interrogation, and had her $30M startup smashed to $8M. Her response? A 50-page RICO lawsuit. Don't mess with HR!
Chad Sowash
Jul 28


Indeed Terms, LinkedIn Ghosts, & Google Pitchforks
Taco Bell survivors, low-T troops, and AI dystopia. welcome to The Chad & Cheese Podcast! This week, the boys break down Signal Labs digging up 1999 ATS dinosaur Brass Ring, a predatory startup charging desperate job seekers 20% of their pay, Indeed’s privacy-killing new T&Cs, Texas taking on LinkedIn’s "ghost jobs," and Googlers demanding layoff prenups. Tune in now for unfiltered HR commentary and awful dad jokes!
Chad Sowash
Jul 24


AI Takes The Boring Part w/ Adam Godson
The Chad & Cheese Podcast hits the hot seat with Adam Godson, Workday’s TA General Manager. They strip down the Paradox acquisition, the impending "SAS Apocalypse," and how autonomous AI agents are turning clunky ATS platforms into basic digital filing cabinets. The takeaway? Legacy tech is dying, recruitment pricing is shifting to results, and real human connection is king.
Chad Sowash
Jul 20
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