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The hottest podcast in Human Resources, Talent Acquisition, and Talent Management.



Hiring, We Have a Problem: AI
Grab a beverage for a special "just us girls" episode featuring Joel Cheesman and Maureen “Moe” Clough. This week, the duo delivers a light-hearted yet substantive look into worker backlash against artificial intelligence and today's brutal hiring market.
Joel Cheesman
13 hours ago


2,400 Locations, Only 1 AI w/ Mark Gibson
How do you hire for Applebee’s, Taco Bell, and Planet Fitness with only six recruiters? Mark Gibson from Flynn Group joins Chad & Cheese to reveal "Frankie"—the AI assistant doing the heavy lifting for 2,400+ locations. From waking up to a million applicants to turning recruiters into media buyers and using TikTok for Gen Z talent, it’s a masterclass in scaling without the soul-crushing admin.
Chad Sowash
4 days ago


iCIMS Shuffles, Phenom Splurges, & Greenhouse Gets Fashionable
Is iCIMS facing a final fire sale? Chad and Joel break down the "CFO takeover" and Phenom's latest "psychobabble" acquisition. Plus, Greenhouse buys Ezra AI to "look fashionable," and J.T. O'Donnell reveals LinkedIn's $450M AI secret. "Who’d You Rather" returns with a birthday showdown! HR’s most dangerous podcast is back.
Chad Sowash
May 8


Talent Disruption Through the Ages w/ Jeff Taylor
Founder Jeff Taylor joins The Chad to discuss returning to the "shit show" of recruitment with Boomband. He reveals why Monster passed on buying LinkedIn for $304M in 2003 and how his iconic Super Bowl ad drove 700% more traffic. Taylor compares today’s AI wave to the 1997 dot-com bubble and plans to disrupt the industry again by mapping 175M workers.
Chad Sowash
May 5


Personio Stays Home
Personio hit Q1 2026 profit but lacked transparency, choosing a "stay home" move over a "go big" moment. Tech giants are firing staff to fund AI. The UK outpaces the US in healthcare and leave. Palantir faces ethical backlash , Nomad Health pivots to software , and LinkedIn gets a new CEO to survive AI.
Chad Sowash
May 1


The Spy Who Recruited Me w/ Jim Lawler
Jim Lawler joins Chad and Cheese to explain how the CIA recruits. Forget LinkedIn; Jim uses MICE: Money, Ideology, Coercion, and Ego. He targets the miserable because "happy people" don't commit treason. From stopping nuclear networks to sitting on $1B in gold, Jim proves HR is easy compared to convincing a diplomat to kick his boss in the face.
Chad Sowash
Apr 28


Bots Gone Wild
Joel and JT break down the seismic shifts rocking the industry, from a massive restructuring wave hitting giants like Meta, Disney, and Snap to the high-profile leadership exits at JobCase, SeekOut and Bots!
Joel Cheesman
Apr 24


Data Wars with Rebecca Car
In this episode of Mallorca Talks, Chad Sowash and SmartRecruiters CEO Rebecca Carr discuss AI's future. Carr argues that corporate ego, not tech, hinders innovation by creating "walled gardens". With 120 SAP engineers, they are building an ecosystem where Slack, WhatsApp, and AI agents collaborate to free humans from admin bloat and unlock creativity.
Chad Sowash
Apr 21


LinkedIn 'Shakes and Gen Z Breaks
2026 is wild: the Pope is "weak on crime" and CEOs are dodging Molotovs. Chad and Joel expose the AI "Side Hustle Seduction," where experts get paid to train their own replacements. While Zuck builds bunkers and digital clones , Gen Z fears for their wages and creativity. Plus, Humanly buys an Ant Hill. We out!
Chad Sowash
Apr 17


Radical Transparency w/ Allyn Bailey
Stop pretending your 2012-era ATS works. Recruiting is being rewritten, and the "Candidate Black Hole" is finally closing. Allyn Bailey and Chad Sowash break down why static resumes are dead and why radical transparency—from salary to real-time scoring—is the new reality. AI isn't just a tool; it’s redistributing power. If you’re still hoarding data instead of connecting it, you’ve already lost.
Chad Sowash
Apr 14


Grayscale Evolves & BLS Lies?
This week, Chad and JT expose the "Two Weeks" mirage. The BLS jobs report looks like a boom, but it’s just striking workers and melting snow. Paylocity buys Grayscale to join the AI agent arms race , while Clasp steals Uncle Sam’s 1916 playbook to fix healthcare. Plus, Jack Dorsey wants to kill middle management with machine-readable "artifacts". We out!
Chad Sowash
Apr 10


People Matter at Work w/ Josh Block
Join the Chad & Cheese podcast as Josh Block, author of People Matter at Work, shares how he grew a family business from $30M to $215M. Dive into the "trenches" of healthcare, the impact of AI on radiology, and why rigid HR policies fail. Discover how to build a culture where performance matters because people do. Real talk for the modern workforce.
Chad Sowash
Apr 7


Mercor Hack - Findem Smack
HR’s most dangerous podcast is back! We dive into Mercor’s 4TB data breach and the Senate’s probe into Findem’s 418k opt-out requests. Is AI killing capitalism or just LinkedIn’s live streams? From Melania’s teacher bots to Chad’s new tattoo and Emi’s "genetic blessings," we’re stripping it all down. Listen now!
Chad Sowash
Apr 3


Recruiting Rewired w/ Shiran Yaroslavsky
Can AI finally kill HR friction? Chad Sowash talks with Shiran Yaroslavsky on the shift from complex dashboards to agentic workflows. Shiran breaks down "agent orchestration," waking up idle talent databases, and why AI auditing is non-negotiable for trust. From TikTok outreach to slashing ATS migration from months to weeks, learn how Shiran is architecting the future of hiring.
Chad Sowash
Mar 31


White-Collar Salary Collapse
In this episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Joel Cheesman and guest host JT O’Donnell unpack the chaotic 2026 labor market with high-energy banter. They kick off with GIF vs. Jif debates and a wild March Madness elevator story with a college coach, then explore NIL deals reshaping sports careers and the mental health hits athletes face when the money dries up.
Joel Cheesman
Mar 27


Hacking Jack & Jill
On HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, CodeWall CEO Paul Price reveals how AI agents breached startup Jack and Jill. By chaining trivial bugs, his AI accessed data from firms like Monzo and Anthropic, including PII and salaries. The AI even socially engineered other bots by cloning voices and posing as journalists.
Chad Sowash
Mar 24


Indeed Desperation & Vibe-Coder Rise
In this episode of the Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys dive into the escalating "cage match" between Indeed and LinkedIn. They break down Indeed’s aggressive new spend-matching program, questioning if it’s a genuine incentive or a tactical data grab for competitive intelligence. Meanwhile, LinkedIn counters with AI-managed interviews. Plus, a look at vibe-coding and Travis Kalanick’s robots.
Chad Sowash
Mar 20


Break Everything with Rebecca Carr
Mallorca, sun’s out and Rebecca Carr is burning down recruiting as we know it. ATS? Dead. AI agents? Running the show. SmartRecruiters goes from commodity to SAP power play while most companies cling to broken tech stacks. If your hiring strategy still looks like 2015… yeah, you’re already toast.
Chad Sowash
Mar 17


(Yet Another) Death of the Resume Debate
Is the resume finally dead, or is it just being fitted for a digital tuxedo? The team squares off on whether AI "slop" has officially broken the application process, leading to a fiery debate on why your personal brand might be the only life raft left in an unstable sea.
Joel Cheesman
Mar 13


Ghosting, Grinding, and Getting Screwed: Job Search in 2026
The job market is a mess. Jillian O’Malior joins Chad, Cheese, and JT to break down 600 job applications, endless interviews, ghosting recruiters, and roles that disappear after months of hiring theater. We dig into AI resume spam, shrinking salaries, ATS black holes, and why today’s hiring process makes candidates feel less human and more like data points.
Chad Sowash
Mar 10


Will ICIMS AI Coalesce?
Fresh paint, same problems? iCIMS launches a new brand, Indeed finally hires a CTO, and companies blame AI for layoffs while others promise AI training. Chad & Cheese unpack the hype, the leadership shakeups, and the never-ending HR tech buzzword parade.
Chad Sowash
Mar 6


Swiftynomics w/ Misty Heggeness
Economists, Swifties, and HR chaos collide. Misty Heggeness joins the boys to talk Taylor’s economic empire, women building their own power systems, AI bias, and why trickle-down is on life support. Census Bureau nerds, pandemic wine writing, and peak Chad & Cheese snark included.
Chad Sowash
Mar 3


Stepstone Spins & Kombo Wins
Hold onto your scotch—Chad and the ladies are back for a cheese-free episode of HR’s most dangerous podcast. This week: StepStone is spinning stats, JT warns of Silicon Valley’s "superstar" obsession, and Emi calls BS on corporate hype. From Olympic Village condom shortages to Nantucket’s cocaine-filled sewers, it’s a chaotic deep dive into the industry’s messiest corners. Don’t be average.
Chad Sowash
Feb 27


Becoming Choosable w/ James Ellis
Employer branding is broken and James Ellis is here to fix it. In this episode, we torch “spray & pray” applications, call out ATS robots, and explain why pretty career sites don’t make you choosable. If you think talent is interchangeable, you’re already losing. Snark included. Egos? Not safe.
Chad Sowash
Feb 24
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