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Ace Hardware’s Stef Nikitas and Kaleigh Burns join Chad & Cheese to reveal "Project Hurricane," the overhaul that scaled their TA budget from $500k to $4M. Learn how "Grace," their AI bot, automates scheduling so recruiters can focus on being human. From 2-minute apps to surviving a 10-day tech blackout , see how a 100-year-old brand wins the talent war.

How do you hire for Applebee’s, Taco Bell, and Planet Fitness with only six recruiters? Mark Gibson from Flynn Group joins Chad & Cheese to reveal "Frankie"—the AI assistant doing the heavy lifting for 2,400+ locations. From waking up to a million applicants to turning recruiters into media buyers and using TikTok for Gen Z talent, it’s a masterclass in scaling without the soul-crushing admin.

Founder Jeff Taylor joins The Chad to discuss returning to the "shit show" of recruitment with Boomband. He reveals why Monster passed on buying LinkedIn for $304M in 2003 and how his iconic Super Bowl ad drove 700% more traffic. Taylor compares today’s AI wave to the 1997 dot-com bubble and plans to disrupt the industry again by mapping 175M workers.

Jim Lawler joins Chad and Cheese to explain how the CIA recruits. Forget LinkedIn; Jim uses MICE: Money, Ideology, Coercion, and Ego. He targets the miserable because "happy people" don't commit treason. From stopping nuclear networks to sitting on $1B in gold, Jim proves HR is easy compared to convincing a diplomat to kick his boss in the face.

In this episode of Mallorca Talks, Chad Sowash and SmartRecruiters CEO Rebecca Carr discuss AI's future. Carr argues that corporate ego, not tech, hinders innovation by creating "walled gardens". With 120 SAP engineers, they are building an ecosystem where Slack, WhatsApp, and AI agents collaborate to free humans from admin bloat and unlock creativity.

Stop pretending your 2012-era ATS works. Recruiting is being rewritten, and the "Candidate Black Hole" is finally closing. Allyn Bailey and Chad Sowash break down why static resumes are dead and why radical transparency—from salary to real-time scoring—is the new reality. AI isn't just a tool; it’s redistributing power. If you’re still hoarding data instead of connecting it, you’ve already lost.

Join the Chad & Cheese podcast as Josh Block, author of People Matter at Work, shares how he grew a family business from $30M to $215M. Dive into the "trenches" of healthcare, the impact of AI on radiology, and why rigid HR policies fail. Discover how to build a culture where performance matters because people do. Real talk for the modern workforce.

Can AI finally kill HR friction? Chad Sowash talks with Shiran Yaroslavsky on the shift from complex dashboards to agentic workflows. Shiran breaks down "agent orchestration," waking up idle talent databases, and why AI auditing is non-negotiable for trust. From TikTok outreach to slashing ATS migration from months to weeks, learn how Shiran is architecting the future of hiring.

Mallorca, sun’s out and Rebecca Carr is burning down recruiting as we know it. ATS? Dead. AI agents? Running the show. SmartRecruiters goes from commodity to SAP power play while most companies cling to broken tech stacks. If your hiring strategy still looks like 2015… yeah, you’re already toast.

The job market is a mess. Jillian O’Malior joins Chad, Cheese, and JT to break down 600 job applications, endless interviews, ghosting recruiters, and roles that disappear after months of hiring theater. We dig into AI resume spam, shrinking salaries, ATS black holes, and why today’s hiring process makes candidates feel less human and more like data points.

Economists, Swifties, and HR chaos collide. Misty Heggeness joins the boys to talk Taylor’s economic empire, women building their own power systems, AI bias, and why trickle-down is on life support. Census Bureau nerds, pandemic wine writing, and peak Chad & Cheese snark included.

Employer branding is broken and James Ellis is here to fix it. In this episode, we torch “spray & pray” applications, call out ATS robots, and explain why pretty career sites don’t make you choosable. If you think talent is interchangeable, you’re already losing. Snark included. Egos? Not safe.

Bots “enriching hiring and society”? Sure, if by scraping your data, guessing your personality, and ghosting you with a smiley match score. Chad & Cheese break down the Eightfold lawsuit with attorney Rachel Dempsey, unpacking AI black boxes, FCRA risk, and why “ethical AI” might be the biggest buzzword in recruiting.

The “Big Reckoning” is coming. AI is speeding up hiring—but also exposing every broken process, silo, and fake “collaboration” in talent orgs. Execs spent the money and now want real results, not pretty dashboards. When better talent doesn’t show up, leaders—not the tech—take the hit. Robots move faster… outcomes stay mediocre. Buckle up.

Are job boards fixing hiring or just selling more clicks? 🤔 Chad & Cheese welcome Lou Goodman (*Job Board Revolution*) and Jobiqo CEO Martin Lenz to torch volume-based hiring, “quality vs. qualified,” broken ATSs, AI agents, and the future of job boards. Are they evolving… or quietly dying?

Is AI really killing white-collar jobs or is that just the excuse? The Chad & Cheese sit down with Allie Kelly of Business Insider to break down layoffs, hiring freezes, disappearing entry-level roles, and why interest rates, tariffs, and Fed policy, not robots, are doing the real damage. If you’ve been told "AI did it," this episode hits different.

Jeff Taylor helped invent job boards… then watched them break. From DJ booths to Monster, Super Bowl ads ranked “worst ever,” missed billions, dodging LinkedIn regrets, getting humbled by Zuckerberg, and surviving Ray Dalio’s corporate Fight Club. Jeff’s back with BoomBand to fix resumes, job postings, and hiring itself. Again. 🎤

AI didn’t kill creativity — it buried it under AI slop. Jim Kukral joins Chad & Cheese to rip into Coke’s AI ads, the coming “Chipotle Effect,” and why humanity’s last unfair advantage is being human. Jim even quit his job to throw wild, screen-free boat parties on Lake Erie. Are we headed for a Human Renaissance… or trapped in our digital cages?

Chad & Joel go deep with Kim Storin, CMO of Zoom, on brand, AI, and why marketing lost its soul chasing MQLs. Challenger mindset, Bowen Yang, human-in-the-loop AI, CFO wrangling, and why trust beats demand gen. If you think marketing, recruiting, and employer brand are separate… this episode will hurt (in a good way).

LinkedIn claims its algorithm is neutral—but is it? In this episode, the boys sit down with AI-in-HR governance expert Martyn Redstone to unpack a viral experiment exposing proxy bias that quietly suppresses women’s voices. No explicit discrimination, just algorithms reinforcing inequality. If you work in HR, tech, or live on LinkedIn, this episode will change how you see your feed.

On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel & Chad sit down with Ora Marketing co-founder Alexis Meschi to torch bad AI buying habits, lazy LinkedIn “thought leadership,” and tools that kill workflow instead of revenue. A sharp checklist for recruiters who want results—not AI sugar highs.

Charlene Li joins Chad & Cheese to roast why 95% of AI pilots fail, why CEOs treat AI like a shiny toy, and how HR can finally grab a real seat at the table. From “shadow AI” to “speed is the new moat,” this episode packs insights, chaos, and Taco Bell–level danger. Tune in or get left behind.

The Chad & Cheese dive into the rising storm of I-9 compliance with OutSolve’s Desiree Throckmorton. With ICE’s $170B budget surge and 15,000 inspections coming in 2026, sloppy I-9s can mean fines up to $27K per violation. Remote checks, wrong docs, missing fields—everything’s fair game. Add skyrocketing H-1B fees and recent raids, and Desiree warns: audit now, centralize records, and get ICE-ready or get burned.

Julia Levy joins Chad & Cheese to unpack TA chaos, vendor BS, and why today’s tech feels like 2015 with a chatbot glued on. She breaks down how students can actually land internships, why AI is now talking to AI, and what inspired her new book “From Hi to Hired.” Plus: Euro-Chad, Super Bock, shrinkage jokes, and plenty of hard-won TA wisdom.