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Hiring Became Our Edge w/ Kristen Reilly
How do you hire 3,000 seasonal coaches in just 6 weeks? Kristen Reilly, SVP of Talent at Elevo Learning, joins Chad & Cheese to share her team's incredible tech turnaround. By replacing manual grunt work with conversational AI, Elevo flipped their Day 1 staffing from 34% to 96% and sent recruiter happiness from a 16 to a 68 EMPS. Stream "Hiring Became Our Edge" now!
Chad Sowash
2 days ago


Your Best Hire Already Left w/ Gustavo Serbia
Chad and Joel sit down with Gustavo Serbia, CHRO at Hair Cuttery Family of Brands. Managing 6,000 stylists is a high-drama, hyper-competitive game. Discover how they used Paradox to smash hiring times from 17 days down to 3 , gamified commissions with a custom app , and harnessed AI to build instant funnel analyses.
Tune in to the AI series now! We out!
Chad Sowash
Jun 30


Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring w/ Maya Huber & Phuong Vu
Resumes are dead, and AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper. In this episode, Chad Sowash hosts a debate on the future of hiring:
Phuong Vu (Telexa) argues for "skills-first" models focused on human adaptability and real evidence.
Dr. Maya Huber (TaTiO) says ditch applications entirely have candidates try out the job via live simulations first. Listen now.
Chad Sowash
Jun 23


Busting Drug Cartels w/ Jack McFarland Former DEA
High-stakes HR meets the DEA! 32-year veteran Jack McFarland talks about recruiting "Muppets" and mercenary informants, surviving 30-page typed applications, and his wild audition for The Traitors. Plus, a look at mandatory retirement at 57 and corporate ageism. It’s HR sprinkled with coke, crack, and grass. Listen now!
Chad Sowash
Jun 16


Marriott Hiring: 2 Weeks to 3 Days w/ Meghan Rhatigan
Chad & Joel grill Marriott’s Meghan Rhatigan on hiring 200k global workers. Trapped with a "fat funnel" and hiring managers taking 2 weeks to schedule interviews, Meghan snuck Paradox past legal by calling it "automation" instead of AI. Process dropped to 3 days! Plus, she’s weaponized a 5M candidate CRM and shaded peers stuck crying, "But we have Workday..." We out.
Chad Sowash
Jun 9


AI Answered 1.8m Questions w/ Patti Tabris
Patti Tabris of ResultsCX joins Chad and Cheese to reveal how AI transformed their global hiring. By deploying "Olivia," an AI assistant that answered 1.8M questions, she boosted assessment completion from 30% to 90%. Learn how she cut application times to under 6 minutes and automated 100,000 interviews to let recruiters focus on the human side of the job.
Chad Sowash
May 26


Ace Hardware: Differentiate or Die
Ace Hardware’s Stef Nikitas and Kaleigh Burns join Chad & Cheese to reveal "Project Hurricane," the overhaul that scaled their TA budget from $500k to $4M. Learn how "Grace," their AI bot, automates scheduling so recruiters can focus on being human. From 2-minute apps to surviving a 10-day tech blackout , see how a 100-year-old brand wins the talent war.
Chad Sowash
May 19


2,400 Locations, Only 1 AI w/ Mark Gibson
How do you hire for Applebee’s, Taco Bell, and Planet Fitness with only six recruiters? Mark Gibson from Flynn Group joins Chad & Cheese to reveal "Frankie"—the AI assistant doing the heavy lifting for 2,400+ locations. From waking up to a million applicants to turning recruiters into media buyers and using TikTok for Gen Z talent, it’s a masterclass in scaling without the soul-crushing admin.
Chad Sowash
May 12


Talent Disruption Through the Ages w/ Jeff Taylor
Founder Jeff Taylor joins The Chad to discuss returning to the "shit show" of recruitment with Boomband. He reveals why Monster passed on buying LinkedIn for $304M in 2003 and how his iconic Super Bowl ad drove 700% more traffic. Taylor compares today’s AI wave to the 1997 dot-com bubble and plans to disrupt the industry again by mapping 175M workers.
Chad Sowash
May 5


The Spy Who Recruited Me w/ Jim Lawler
Jim Lawler joins Chad and Cheese to explain how the CIA recruits. Forget LinkedIn; Jim uses MICE: Money, Ideology, Coercion, and Ego. He targets the miserable because "happy people" don't commit treason. From stopping nuclear networks to sitting on $1B in gold, Jim proves HR is easy compared to convincing a diplomat to kick his boss in the face.
Chad Sowash
Apr 28


Data Wars with Rebecca Car
In this episode of Mallorca Talks, Chad Sowash and SmartRecruiters CEO Rebecca Carr discuss AI's future. Carr argues that corporate ego, not tech, hinders innovation by creating "walled gardens". With 120 SAP engineers, they are building an ecosystem where Slack, WhatsApp, and AI agents collaborate to free humans from admin bloat and unlock creativity.
Chad Sowash
Apr 21


Radical Transparency w/ Allyn Bailey
Stop pretending your 2012-era ATS works. Recruiting is being rewritten, and the "Candidate Black Hole" is finally closing. Allyn Bailey and Chad Sowash break down why static resumes are dead and why radical transparency—from salary to real-time scoring—is the new reality. AI isn't just a tool; it’s redistributing power. If you’re still hoarding data instead of connecting it, you’ve already lost.
Chad Sowash
Apr 14


People Matter at Work w/ Josh Block
Join the Chad & Cheese podcast as Josh Block, author of People Matter at Work, shares how he grew a family business from $30M to $215M. Dive into the "trenches" of healthcare, the impact of AI on radiology, and why rigid HR policies fail. Discover how to build a culture where performance matters because people do. Real talk for the modern workforce.
Chad Sowash
Apr 7


Recruiting Rewired w/ Shiran Yaroslavsky
Can AI finally kill HR friction? Chad Sowash talks with Shiran Yaroslavsky on the shift from complex dashboards to agentic workflows. Shiran breaks down "agent orchestration," waking up idle talent databases, and why AI auditing is non-negotiable for trust. From TikTok outreach to slashing ATS migration from months to weeks, learn how Shiran is architecting the future of hiring.
Chad Sowash
Mar 31


Break Everything with Rebecca Carr
Mallorca, sun’s out and Rebecca Carr is burning down recruiting as we know it. ATS? Dead. AI agents? Running the show. SmartRecruiters goes from commodity to SAP power play while most companies cling to broken tech stacks. If your hiring strategy still looks like 2015… yeah, you’re already toast.
Chad Sowash
Mar 17


Ghosting, Grinding, and Getting Screwed: Job Search in 2026
The job market is a mess. Jillian O’Malior joins Chad, Cheese, and JT to break down 600 job applications, endless interviews, ghosting recruiters, and roles that disappear after months of hiring theater. We dig into AI resume spam, shrinking salaries, ATS black holes, and why today’s hiring process makes candidates feel less human and more like data points.
Chad Sowash
Mar 10


Swiftynomics w/ Misty Heggeness
Economists, Swifties, and HR chaos collide. Misty Heggeness joins the boys to talk Taylor’s economic empire, women building their own power systems, AI bias, and why trickle-down is on life support. Census Bureau nerds, pandemic wine writing, and peak Chad & Cheese snark included.
Chad Sowash
Mar 3


Becoming Choosable w/ James Ellis
Employer branding is broken and James Ellis is here to fix it. In this episode, we torch “spray & pray” applications, call out ATS robots, and explain why pretty career sites don’t make you choosable. If you think talent is interchangeable, you’re already losing. Snark included. Egos? Not safe.
Chad Sowash
Feb 24


Unfolding the Eightfold Lawsuit
Bots “enriching hiring and society”? Sure, if by scraping your data, guessing your personality, and ghosting you with a smiley match score. Chad & Cheese break down the Eightfold lawsuit with attorney Rachel Dempsey, unpacking AI black boxes, FCRA risk, and why “ethical AI” might be the biggest buzzword in recruiting.
Chad Sowash
Feb 17


Talent's Big Reckoning w/ Quincy Valencia
The “Big Reckoning” is coming. AI is speeding up hiring—but also exposing every broken process, silo, and fake “collaboration” in talent orgs. Execs spent the money and now want real results, not pretty dashboards. When better talent doesn’t show up, leaders—not the tech—take the hit. Robots move faster… outcomes stay mediocre. Buckle up.
Chad Sowash
Feb 10


Are Job Boards Solving the Hiring Problem?
Are job boards fixing hiring or just selling more clicks? 🤔 Chad & Cheese welcome Lou Goodman (*Job Board Revolution*) and Jobiqo CEO Martin Lenz to torch volume-based hiring, “quality vs. qualified,” broken ATSs, AI agents, and the future of job boards. Are they evolving… or quietly dying?
Chad Sowash
Feb 3


Stop Blaming AI w/ Allie Kelly
Is AI really killing white-collar jobs or is that just the excuse?
The Chad & Cheese sit down with Allie Kelly of Business Insider to break down layoffs, hiring freezes, disappearing entry-level roles, and why interest rates, tariffs, and Fed policy, not robots, are doing the real damage. If you’ve been told "AI did it," this episode hits different.
Chad Sowash
Jan 27


Monster in the Making: Jeff Taylor, Big Bets and Next Boom
Jeff Taylor helped invent job boards… then watched them break. From DJ booths to Monster, Super Bowl ads ranked “worst ever,” missed billions, dodging LinkedIn regrets, getting humbled by Zuckerberg, and surviving Ray Dalio’s corporate Fight Club. Jeff’s back with BoomBand to fix resumes, job postings, and hiring itself. Again. 🎤
Chad Sowash
Jan 20


Human Renaissance with Jim Kukral
AI didn’t kill creativity — it buried it under AI slop. Jim Kukral joins Chad & Cheese to rip into Coke’s AI ads, the coming “Chipotle Effect,” and why humanity’s last unfair advantage is being human. Jim even quit his job to throw wild, screen-free boat parties on Lake Erie. Are we headed for a Human Renaissance… or trapped in our digital cages?
Chad Sowash
Jan 13
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