CareerBuilder Sharpens Ax

We got your New Year's resolution right here, pal! The boys and back and breaking down

- Update on Indeed's Talent Network Policy

- Oculus Rift and smart speakers are killin' it!

- Irina sharpening the axe at CareerBuilder

- Who dropped $200,000 on the domain?

- Army Recruiting disrupts with eSports

- Rants on Palantir and Oracle lies and the NFL's agism

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Announcer: Hide your kids, lock the doors! You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark. Buckle up boys and girls, it's time for the Chad and Cheese Podcast!

Chad: We are back.

Joel: Merry New Year. We're back, bitches. New year, same idiocy. Welcome to the Chad and Cheese podcast, HR's most dangerous. I'm Joel Cheesman.

Chad: And I am Chad Sowash.

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Chad: Oh, I'm ready.

Joel: Good to be back.

Chad: It is good.

Joel: I can't lie that the break was nice.

Chad: I'm sure it was. You were able to nap a little bit more, little bit more beer, little bit of bourbon.

Joel: Yeah. Eat a little bit more, drink a little more, sleep a little more ... It was all good. It was all good. Of course, we've been podcasting like demons this week, so yeah, we hit the ground running even though this is our first weekly show since being back.

Chad: That being said, I'm going to go ahead and tease some of these. We have a Firing Squad coming out this month that is killer. And we got Hung Lee on as an interview.

Joel: Hey, yes. Recruiting's favorite porn star is on the podcast.

Chad: Not to mention ... In 2019, it looks like we're going to take Europe by storm. We're going to be in Lisbon in May for TAtech, our buddies Pete and Repete, right?

Joel: Yeah.

Chad: And then we've got Recruitfest in London, in July, which we're really excited about.

Joel: Cheers.

Chad: And there's some others that we're still planning, that we're going on. So you're going to see us in Europe this year, doing live shows to be awesome.

Joel: Don't forget Canada.

Chad: Oh shit. Oh, Canada.

Joel: That's coming up.

Chad: It's not Europe, but yes, it is Canada, and it is in the Canadian Rockies. It's in February, so it should be gorgeous and cold as shit.

Joel: Banff, which I still miss ... miss whatever ... I say Branff and Banffi, and I say all kinds of stuff. Really my Canadian wife loves, but that's another story.

Chad: Oh yeah, I'm sure.

Joel: Yeah, teasers galore. We're going to have a busy year, a big year. Chances are, if you're at our conferences, you will see us at some point.

Chad: And there's going to be T-shirts. Yes!

Joel: Oh, T-shirts.

Joel: Tell 'em what they won, Chad, with the latest T-shirt sponsorship.

Chad: Yes! We have two new sponsors that are happening this year. Right out of the gate, we have, who will be sponsoring the very first Chad and Cheese limited edition T-shirts, which we will be giving away at conferences. And last but not least, Shaker Recruitment, believe that ... Joe Shaker-

Joel: Joe Shaker.

Chad: ... spending money with Chad and Cheese. We have a new sponsorship called Traveling With Chad and Cheese, where Joe and the group are going to gear us up with Shaker gear, and yeah, wherever we go, we're taking Shaker with us.

Joel: If you can't tell, we're really reaching for those sponsorship opportunities.

Chad: Dude, they're awesome.

Joel: I'm just glad that we got Joe to commit before the Bears meltdown in the playoffs, because he might not have been quite as open to opening up his pocketbook after that game, yeah.

Chad: Oh dear.

Joel: Which leads me to the first shout-out, I think. Shout out to Philly fans. We have a huge following in Philly. They're probably still drunk, who knows, as we speak, celebrating the win. Good for them, sad for the Chicago folks; that was a real bummer of a loss. We have a lot of fans in Chicago. So torn there; shout out to Chicago, but as always in Chicago, there's next year.

Joel: As always. Yeah. We're going to go to Susan Vitale, who we have not talked about in a while, because-

Chad: Yeah, [crosstalk 00:05:20].

Chad: She just had a little girl, so I want to congratulate Susan, the family, the whole iCIMS crew, because I'm sure little Alba Rose will be gracing the doors of iCIMS very soon, if she hasn't already.

Joel: That was a unique name, Alba.

Chad: Yeah, I love it. I love it.

Joel: Alba. Yo, Alba. I'm trying to do it with like a Jersey kind of attitude behind.

Chad: Sounded more Philly, more Rocky.

Joel: Yeah, I guess so. Hey, Jersey. Okay. You mentioned the Hung Lee, a big shout-out to him. I'm going to give a shout-out to Irina Novoselsky. Hopefully I said that correctly.

Chad: Really?

Joel: CareerBuilder CEO made Chicago's 40 Under 40 list. The 33 year old is making shit happen, as we will find out further as we go into the show, but shout out to her for making that illustrious 40 Under 40 list.

Chad: She's making things happen all right. We also made a couple of I think 2019 lists, so Mason Wong and Hung Lee put on their pods to follow in 2019. Now, Hung Lee's was I think more focused on the recruitment side of the house. Mason's was really just focused on what he listens to, and I believe we were the only recruiting/HR podcast on his list, so appreciate it guys, thanks so much. And Mason, I'm going to try my damnedest to get Joel to bite on new sound effects, but I can't promise anything, buddy.