LinkedIn Gets Touch-Feely

Falls is here and the leaves may be dropping, but it's nothing to the news-breaking and the knowledge-droppin' that's going down on The Chad & Cheese Podcast this week.

So what happened? Glad you asked.

... and what show would be complete without some Indeed rumors?

Enjoy, and write our sponsors - JobAdx, Sovren, and Canvas - a blank check while you're at it.


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Chad: Hello.

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Chad: And I'm Chad Getting-On-A-Plane Sowash.

Joel: On a jet plane. On this week's episode, LinkedIn connects with its inner Meetup. TMP carves out more market share and opportunities in the cannabis industry are growing like a weed.

Chad: Woo!

Joel: See what I did there, Chad?

Chad: [crosstalk 00:01:10]

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Chad: God, stop aging us.

Joel: Sorry, sorry.

Chad: I'm already down because I'm down a Peepers.

Joel: Explain to people who the hell Peepers is because it sounds like a strip show or strip club.

Chad: Is your dog. So Mr. Peepers is your dog. You were gone last long weekend, you dropped the little guy off here. I have three dogs, girl dogs, and they just had a blast. We always enjoy having Peepers around.

Joel: Yeah, yeah. Took the family on fall break to paradise, also known as Cleveland, Ohio. Had a grand old time at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Many people don't know this, but A Christmas Story was largely filmed in Cleveland and the house that's in the movie is in Cleveland and it has since been turned into a museum. The Bumpus' house next door is now a hotel where you can stay overnight there.

Chad: The Bumpus'.

Joel: Across the street is a garage with the firetruck when Flick got stuck to the fire pole, or the flagpole. So the firetruck from that is there and also the car that the family drove where the tire gets flat and Ralphie says "Oh, fudge."

Chad: That wasn't quick "fudge."

Joel: So yeah, the kids enjoyed it, we did some other things. Peepers had some fun with your bitches there.

Chad: Yeah. Well, he understands that when he comes here he's apart of the pack and he has to listen to them. Because if you fuck with one of them, you fuck with all three of them and no guy wants that kind of shit. So he's great.

Joel: Where's his place in the pack there? Is he at the bottom? Because I feel like he beats up Amber enough that he leaps frogs her.

Chad: Yeah, but that's playing and they all kind of gang up on each other every now and again. But he knows better. He's a smart dude. He's like, "Yeah, I'm going to have some fun here, but I'm not going to take it too far."

Joel: I don't know about smart, but anyone, someone who is smart, our buddy Jamie Leonard from Recfest was sporting a Chad and Cheese t-shirt while doing a presentation down in Australia, I believe, this week.

Chad: Yeah, I think it's got to be one of his favorite t-shirts. I'm going to have to send him another half dozen or so, because every time I see a picture, not every time but most of the time, he has a Chad and Cheese t-shirt on. So I'm going to have to make sure we get him stocked up.

Chad: Along with Martine Radcliffe who is the VP of TA over at American Cancer Society. It was great meeting her at HR Tech, and she was one of those "I have to have a t-shirt" people. So she's wearing it, she's enjoying it, she's LinkedIn and tweeting

about it. So you're welcome Martine and thanks for listening.

Joel: Yeah, Martine was one of these nuts that actually went to both of our sessions at HR Tech. That's how fanatical she is about the show.

Chad: Love it. Love it.

Joel: So Martine, thanks for the fanatical behavior.

Chad: Exactly. So how do you say, Muir? Is it Muir? How do you say that? That's probably an English name but not an American name. Is it Muir McDonald?

Joel: Well, it's got to be some Scottish-Irish mashup.

Chad: Okay, I love it.

Joel: McDonald I get, I could pronounce that.

Chad: That's too easy, yeah.

Joel: Yeah, give us a shout and let us know how to pronounce that name. Muir McDonald.

Chad: M-U-I-R. There you go.

Joel: Yeah, yeah. Put us number one on his HR podcast list, so we appreciate that.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: Shout out to him.

Chad: Love that. Along with, this is very, very interesting, Recruiting Future Podcast with Matt Alder and Talent Cast with James Ellis. A little tease, something very interesting happening with all of those three podcasts, so stay tuned.

Joel: It's getting kind of hectic people. Shout out to my mom on a little somber note. I'm just going to throw her in here. She's having a rough go in the health department. She's had replacement knees, one replacement hip. One of her knees acted up this week, she had to go under the knife to get that fixed, and then woke up this morning with pneumonia, so she's back in the ER.

Joel: So mom, shout out to you. As soon as I'm off this podcast I'm going to come down and say hi and hopefully lift your spirits. But man, she's on a losing streak. So if you're out there, just send some good vibes to Mama Becky.

Chad: Good vibes to mom please. My God, man. So big shout out to Louise Triance for pulling together a great Chad and Louise show with Thomas Prince from Talent Nexus. It was all focused on programmatic job advertising, why you should be thinking about programmatic, how to get things moving in programmatic, all that other fun stuff.

Chad: The only way you would've seen it is if you had subscribed to the Chad and Cheese Podcast. We put it in our RSS feed but we do some little special things for people who are already subscribed. So if you haven't subscribed, go to, click on the subscribe button or just pull out your app that you currently watch podcasts in, type in the Chad and Cheese Podcast and subscribe. You'll get all the cool stuff that the other kids don't get.

Joel: Does Louise have some blackmail on you? This is your twentieth webinar with her. Then I can't imagine you would do that that many times unless someone had some dirt on you.

Chad: Yeah, she's just a sweetheart. Not to mention, it's great from an EU expansion. They like to have a little dumb American every now and again, so I fit that bill.

Joel: Yeah, by the way, didn't they figure out Brexit this week? I've been kind of out of the loop in Cleveland. It seems like I read that they got their act together on that.

Chad: We've got enough shit on our side of the pond to fucking worry about let along that, right?

Chad: Some Indeed rumors real quick.

Joel: Oh. Everybody loves those.

Chad: Yeah. We won't go deep into it, because we're still tracking down some data and speaking with some sources, but the prospect of the Search Quality team is they're starting surface again. If you don't know, the Search Quality team is...

Joel: They're the party poopers.

Chad: They're like the Black Ops team that's just going to shut down your shit. Right? So if you have organic traffic, all that free traffic, when they come in and you hear "Search Quality team," with regard to your jobs, what's going to happen is your shit's going to get shut down. And the only way that you're going to get any traffic from Indeed moving forward, is to pay for that traffic. This is what I like to call, personally, a scam.

Joel: A shake down.

Chad: Yeah, a scam that they've been running very successfully. They did it with job boards. job boards came in, gave them a ton of content, they got a bunch of free traffic and then Indeed shut it down and started saying, "Hey, look, the only way that you're going to be able to get traffic from us, since now you're on the heroin drip, is to pay for it."

Joel: Yeah.

Chad: They did the same with staffing companies. Exact same thing. Now, they're looking for different actual corporate companies or service providers or what have you that they can do this with. So now that the search quality team isn't focused on staffing anymore, they're looking for you possibly, Mr. Talent Acquisition Professional, Mrs. Talent Acquisition Professional. So I think right now is a very good time to look at diversifying the traffic that's coming into your website.

Joel: You may want to