Adzuna Shade

Don't shoot your eye out, kids, The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back this week with top news from the world of recruiting. The boys are pulling zero punches on:

- Adzuna's cofounder for throwing shade at newly minted

- Indeed may or may not finally be getting TV ads right

- and LinkedIn gives 140,000 reasons to get your kids enrolled in some A.I. 101 classes ASAP.

All this and much, much more, thanks to sponsors Sovren, JobAdx, and Canvas.


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Tim Sackett: Hi, I'm Tim Sackett and you're listening to the Chad & Cheese Podcast. I'm not sure why you are, but hey, you do you.

Intro: Hide your kids. Lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinion, and loads of snark, buckle up, boys and girls. It's time for the Chad & Cheese Podcast.

Joel: Aw, yeah. Dude, a mall Santa called me a hoe, not once, but three times this week. That's so fucking rude. Hey, boys and girls, welcome to the Chad & Cheese Podcast, HR's merriest bunch of assholes you've ever seen. I'm your cohost, Joel Cheesman.

Chad: And I'm Chad "Garland All Over My Tree" Sowash.

Joel: We don't want to know what else is on your tree. On this week's show, neuvoo, or, gets a little shade thrown at it. Indeed still doesn't know how to do TV ads. And well, what do you know? AI is still a thing.

Chad: Imagine that.

Joel: Sit down, relax, grab some eggnog, and don't shoot your eye out, kids. We'll be right back after we pay a few bills.

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Joel: Christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat. Please put a penny in the old man's hat. I almost took a nap during that ad. And speaking of naps-

Chad: Yes.

Joel: Our first shout out goes to Matt Adam and NAS for having the greatest webinar in the history of webinars.

Chad: Killing me.

Joel: Scheduled for this week or next week or sometime soon about the value of naps. Yes. It's about time.

Chad: Well, first off, it's not a webinar. It was actually a DisruptHR presentation, so you must've fallen asleep before-

Joel: See, I need to wake up for these things.

Chad: Yeah, yeah. It was actually, it was a great pitch, and I buy it to an extent because he talks about guys like me who work like, 60 to 80 hours a week, how we need-

Joel: Oh, god.

Chad: ... to pull back, take naps, chill out, be reenergized. But I think this goes lost on about, I don't know, a quarter of the population who only works about 20 hours and thinks they need to take naps, and so yeah, that's not the


Joel: The main point is, when you and I grew up, naps were for pussies, right? You'll sleep when you die. And we've fortunately come around to a place in human development where we say, "You know what? Your brain needs to recharge, you need to nap. It's not a wussy thing to do." And that's a positive thing.

Chad: That's just like saying, "Water makes you weak." The Denzel Washington in Remember the Titans, right? Water makes you weak. Well, no, actually water doesn't make you weak, you need water. But back in those times, the old-timey kind of thought process was it makes you weak, and we know better through science that it does not. But yes, I agree. We need more time away from work.

Joel: No doubt. So let's get these shout outs going so I can get back to my nap time. What do you got?

Chad: Guest appearance on Candidate.ID's rendition of Mariah Carey's All I Want For Christmas Is Talent Pipeline Automation. It's funny, he kind of had all these pictures of different people, or they put Christmas hats and elf hats and all that other fun stuff on them while somebody actually did this rendition of Mariah Carey, which I thought was hilarious and go figure, I had to listen to the whole thing.

Joel: Which is great, by the way. We forget how awesome Mariah was.

Chad: Oh yeah.

Joel: And listening to that song during the season, just like holy hell, she had some pipes on her. And to have Whitney and Mariah at the same time, we are a blessed generation.

Chad: I agree.

Joel: And by the way, Adam in the Chad & Cheese T-shirt at his local Planet Fitness or whatever they have over there in Scotland. Looks pretty good, man, and the tight shorts are a nice touch, too.

Chad: Yes, those are definitely '80s shorts.

Joel: It's Scotland, dude, I mean, you know...

Chad: We used to call them ball-huggers.

Joel: Fashion.

Chad: So big shout out to Oonaugh Clark, I actually had to look up how to say that first name, Oonaugh Clark over at CrossCountry Consulting in Ireland came to our defense on LinkedIn this week.

Joel: [crosstalk 00:06:11]

Chad: Somebody had actually posted a quote-unquote "solid podcast recruitment list," and we weren't included, so Oonaugh actually said, "It's not a solid recruitment list unless Matt Alder and Chad and Cheese are on the list.


Joel: That's what I'm talking about. Hey, I think we should do a top 10 list of the worst lists in recruitment. Because every company, the lists are coming out at a maddening pace.

Chad: Oh, yes.

Joel: And it's getting a little ridiculous.

Chad: So I saw one this week that had, it was like the top HR leaders or what have you.

Joel: Sure.

Chad: And it had people that you and I know, and then it also had Laszlo Bock, right? And I'm like, how do you... What do you... I don't get it. This makes no fucking sense.

Joel: Who is Laszlo Bock?

Chad: He had Google's talent in HR for a long time.

Joel: Oh, yeah. Okay. Right.

Chad: Wrote a book called Work Rules! Yeah, that guy.

Joel: Well, he should probably be on the list.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: The problem is, these sites go to other services that rate blogs and social media presences and stuff, and podcasters don't really get on those lists, I don't think. So we kind of get left out.

Chad: Eh, I don't feel left out. Noura Dadzie, thanks for commenting and listening, and now go and make sure all your peers, your friends, and family are listening as well. We appreciate it.

Joel: Nice, nice. Shout out to Joe Shaker.

Chad: Joe.

Joel: Joe and I, Joe's a Wisconsin graduate, and I being a Buckeye fan, we had a friendly bet last weekend for the Wisconsin-Ohio State game. I gave him the points that Vegas gave Wisconsin, which were 16 and a half. Ohio State ended up winning by 13, so in Vegas, the Badgers won and I had to make good on my bet. So what I did was I sang the Wisconsin fight song online, on social medias, to pay off the debt that I had for Joe for losing the bet.

Chad: Yes. But still, that makes Joe feel a little bit better, but his Badgers lost horribly after a second half where they were crushed.

Joel: 21-7 lead going into halftime.

Chad: Crushed, crushed.

Joel: That's got to hurt.

Chad: Yeah, that's got to hurt.

Joel: that's got to hurt.