Indeed Switcharoo


Do you like magic? Then you'll love this week's episode, featuring another good ol' fashioned Indeed.com switcharoo! Want more? The boys talk about how LinkedIn made their CEO disappear and CareerBuilder did the same with one of their most profitable businesses. Oh, and we've also got a recruiting robot under our sleeve. Hocus pocus, suckers!

TOPICS!

- Indeed got tricks - Is CareerBuilder bleeding the business dry? - Linkedin lost it's Weiner, but not revenues. - Women on top! - Tengai has an evil twin robot Sigmund

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Jim Stroud:

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Jim Stroud:

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Announcer:

Hide your kids. Lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinion, and loads of snark. Buckle up boys and girls, it's time for the Chad and Cheese Podcast.

Joel:

Yo. What's up you smelly pirate hookers? Welcome to the Chad and Cheese Podcast, HR's most dangerous. I'm your co host Joel Cheesman.

Chad:

And I'm Chad Sowash.

Joel:

On this week's show, Indeed pulls the old switcheroo, LinkedIn loses its Wiener, and Tengai, the Swedish recruiting robot, gets an evil twin. Be afraid. Be very afraid. We'll be right back after we pay a few bills.

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Chad:

Well, obviously, Sovren was not used in Iowa because Iowa had some shitty fucking technology. I mean, how do you fuck that up?

Joel:

You had one job, Iowa. But your boy Buttigieg had a good day.

Chad:

Yeah, he did. I mean, so if you're in Iowa, you have to feel like fucking idiots right now. The Iowa Democratic Party Caucuses, from your standpoint. I think caucuses, they're really cool from the standpoint of you get a chance to actually talk to your neighbors. The social interaction is really cool. I think from a voting standpoint, it is the dumbest fucking thing ever.

Joel:

So it's fun in a way that it's sort of a trip back into time like when it was 1814. That's sort of cool. But for a democratic process, stupid. It's horrible. For the mere fact that people with young children are basically, can't just go out for four hours and do this.

Chad:

Elderly-

Joel:

If they go out for four hours... Yeah, elderly people, disabilities. I mean, the weather is always an issue it seems like in Iowa. So basically you get college kids and 50-60s, empty nesters or older kids that can go do this, and it's just not the best thumbprint on what's going on in America, beside the fact that Iowa's like 99.9% white also kind of throws a monkey wrench in the whole legitimacy thing as well.

Chad:

Yes. We've made voting way too complex, and I understand that's exactly what some politicians want. But man, we have to focus on making this a more vetted process that's easier to participate in. And this whole electoral college bullshit, all of it just drives me crazy. It's like a vote equals a vote. Oh, wait a minute, not in the United States it doesn't. At least the general election. In this case, it's the same kind of thing because Bernie had more votes than Pete did. It's really weird. It's really fucked up. Iowa, do a fucking vote next time, not with your caucus bullshit. Do your vote. And don't do it with an app. How about we don't do that.

Joel:

The fact that we don't know who the winner was... I don't know how much money Buttigieg will probably lose because he couldn't go fundraise that night. He probably could've raised millions just on that night alone because he had won the Iowa caucuses.

Chad:

You're right. To be able to pay that much money, which I think we should get money out of politics all together. But to be able to pay that much money to have a clusterfuck this this is ridiculous.

Joel:

Did you see the Superbowl though?

Chad:

Dude, the Superbowl was, it was a great game. I don't know that Patrick Mahomes knows how to lead, especially those big games, and maybe he just doesn't feel motivated unless he's in a hole. But either way, man, the last three fucking games comes out from behind, wins the game, amazing.

Joel:

Yeah, he has quite the penchant for the comeback for sure. If you've seen any of the parade of the Chiefs winning, what a bunch of meat heads. Holy shit. Beer drinking, wrestling watching knuckleheads.

Chad:

And that might have something to do with them being in Kansas City, and just for all of our listeners, just so you know, Kansas City, Missouri.

Chad:

What about the ads though? What were your favorite ads?

Joel:

We talked briefly about this, and we both love the Tide ad with the stain. It was Tide, right? Tell me it was Tide.

Chad:

Yeah.

Joel:

So the Tide stain and then how they interject multiple brands into their ads, that shit's genius. I'm a sucker for old school rap, so to seem Hammer make an appearance in the Cheetos ad was certainly great. Although I'm not sure Cheetos popcorn is going to take off, but at least Hammer's still paying the rent, which is nice. I still think it's interesting that I think I counted three electric vehicle ads. One for the Hummer, which I think is really ironic, and yeah, probably awesome. But it's great that the leader in electric vehicles, Tesla, has never done an ad ever but still is on top of that world just because of the market share that they've grabbed and the brand that they have. So yeah, EV Hummer, electric great. Cybertruck is cool. We're going to see a lot of that shit driving around, which is fun. But yeah, that was my thought. And of course you can go through your favorites, but we got to talk about the Jeep ad featuring a groundhog, which from my standpoint effectively lays off the Indeed groundhog because the fact that Bill Murray is in it and the fact that it's a legitimate movie that people recognize. So what are your thoughts on the Superbowl ads?

Chad:

I think the groundhog moved on is what happened. The groundhog saw a better opportunity and said, "Fuck Indeed," and went back to his old pal Bill Murray. Groundhog Day is a staple. I mean, we've seen it many times. Having Gary the Groundhog around, it was on Groundhog's Day, by the way. He with Bill Murray in a Jeep ad was amazing.

Joel:

Whoever came up with the Indeed ad had to just be kicking themselves thinking about how they fucked up and didn't tie a groundhog in some way, shape, or form to Bill Murray and pop culture because effectively I don't think Indeed can use the groundhog anymore because people are going to think about Bill Murray, Groundhog Day, and Jeep and not Indeed in finding jobs.

Chad:

Yeah. So we've actually reached out to the groundhog's agent, and I think we might actually have something going on with the groundhog hopefully sometime soon.

Joel:

We've got something cooking with the groundhog. So listeners, stay tuned. We'll have some fun stuff coming down the pike. If you remember the Chad and Cheese run for Monster President, you'll enjoy this one.

Chad:

Definitely. Shout out.

Joel:

Shout outs. I'm going to shout out to two folks in pop culture that had big days or big weeks. Axl Rose celebrated his birthday, born in '62, which would make him, what? 58.

Chad:

Yup.

Joel:

And Kirk Douglas unfortunately passed away. Similarly to you, when I heard the news, I thought it was Michael Douglas who is still alive. No, his dad who was 103 and actually looked better than Axl Rose does now passed away unfortunately. So if you haven't seen Spartacus or another Kirk Douglas classic, do yourself a favor and tune in on Netflix or wherever you stream your movies.

Chad:

Wherever you stream your movies. Yeah, that was an oh, shit moment for me. I was like, "Michael Douglas? Oh no, shit. His dad is still alive." Yeah, Kirk fucking Douglas, dude. He was a machine.

Chad:

Some rapid fire. So Jaqueline Martinez aka Jay-Quellen, long time listener. She actually started her own podcast called Coffee to Wine. We were obviously an inspiration there. Maybe not on the wine side, but it was more of just the alcohol. But congrats to Jay-Quellen.

Chad:

We saw another news outlet announcement this week, which I thought was very interesting. I don't know if you saw this or not. Was it Martin Burns started the Recruitment News Network, and this seems like just another form of Brainfood, the Recruiting Brainfood, our Hung Lee buddy. Doesn't it?

Joel:

Yeah, we need another news blog in the space for sure. Gee, thanks. Thanks for that. It looks like he did incorporate George Larocque and some other personalities to contribute to it. But yeah, we have enough of those things as far as I'm concerned.

Chad:

Pete Suchy. I'm going to say Suchy, I don't know.

Joel:

Sushi.

Chad:

Suchy.

Joel:

Suchy.

Chad:

Suchy. Recruitment ad advisor at CVS and I quote, he says, "It's refreshing to get brand insights from people who don't drink the Kool Aid." We try not to.

Joel:

Yeah, Pete, we may not drink the Kool Aid, but god damn it, we're drinking cough syrup from CVS right now.

Chad:

Right now.

Joel:

Pretty fucked up on that shit. Shout out to James Mailley of Monster, big fan out there in Ireland. He gave me a "slainte "through LinkedIn. So James, welcome to the show, and Saint Patrick's Day is right around the corner, my friend.

Chad:

Very nice. Tony Serna.

Joel:

Tony.

Chad:

From SmartRecruiter sent over a little love letter. He loves the podcast, and all I got to say is binge, baby, binge. Steven Rothberg loved your Captain Stubing hat on the podcast teaser trailer. He's a big fan.

Joel:

That was mine. Thanks.

Chad:

A ton of employees over at Alexander Mann Solutions are giving our interview with the SVP Mark Jones a ton of love on Twitter.

Joel:

Mr. Jones and me.

Chad:

Den, Kerry, Erica. I mean, just a ton. Now this, kids, is how you push a message. I got to probably thank Adam Giffey for that over there, but when somebody in leadership or anybody from your organization is on a podcast or quoted in an article or something like that, share the shit out of that. I mean, that's again you want to be able to lift them up. And again you get an opportunity, reciprocity, baby.

Joel:

For reals. For reals. Will Inus of TK Solutions is a big fan of the show. He reached out to us. So Will, welcome aboard to the insane train, and thanks for listening.

Chad:

Insane train. Adam Gordon over at Canada ID. He really enjoyed Sam Davies on the Firing Squad, the pitch for the startup Real Links. Pretty cool and very usable tech. Go figure, Joel gave him the golf clap.

Joel:

And I love the fact that Adam Gordon is still pissed off about his golf clap when he was on Firing Squad.

Chad:

It drives him, man. It drives him.

Joel:

Like a little story. It was parish, right? We met them out for dinner, he was one of them. So I walk into the restaurant. And he's there like... While we're in the restaurant giving me a golf clap. So Adam, we love you, man.

Chad:

I think the funny part was is like I don't get it. I'm like that's because you gave him a golf clap, Cheesman. Jesus.

Joel: