Indeed Flunks IQ Test


It's Corona time! On this week's show, Indeed flunks an IQ test, Tengai, the recruiting robot, passes its validation test, the world's immune system is getting tested, and Chad is feeling testy.

Temper, temper!

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It's Corona time. Hey, it's Corona time right now! It's Corona time.

Intro:

Hide your kids, lock the doors, you're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinions and loads of snark. Buckle up boys and girls, it's time for the Chad and Cheese Podcast.

Chad:

You can keep that Corona shit to yourself.

Joel:

Oh, yeah, it's Corona time. Welcome to the Purell edition of the Chad and Cheese podcast. I'm your cohost, Joel Flu-Shot-Baller Cheeseman.

Chad:

And this is Chad Quarantine Sowash.

Joel:

On this week's episode, Indeed gets an IQ test, Tengai takes a validity test, and everyone's immune systems are being tested. Grab a bar of soap and wash for at 20 seconds people. We'll be right back after a word from JobAdX.

JobAdX:

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Chad:

I literally just went to the bathroom and I washed my hands for 20 seconds. I had plenty of time to come back. Thank you, JobAdX. I appreciate it.

Joel:

That's why I picked that ad, dude, so everyone could go get those germs off those hands baby.

Chad:

Good public service announcement, I appreciate that.

Joel:

It's Corona time, baby. Shout outs!

Chad:

Yes. Okay, so right out of the gate, I'm going to give a huge shout out to one of our sponsors, our transcription sponsor, Disability Solutions. So PepsiCo, who is a client of Disability Solutions, they've hired thousands, that's thousands with an 'S,' of individuals with disabilities, have retained them at higher rates and continue to drive hiring through the most diverse single-demographic in the world. That's individuals with disabilities.

Chad:

The US Government's Office of Federal Contract Compliance and Programs under the Department of Labor has awarded PepsiCo with the DOL Gold Excellence in Disability award. This is the first year that they're doing this, but what this does is it's almost like bringing back one of the old awards that they had is they're kind of placing Pepsi in this security dome and saying, "look, you don't have to worry about audits for five years," which is fucking amazing.

Joel:

When you said "security dome," I automatically thought like coronavirus protection. It's the kind of world we live in.

Chad:

Protection from audits, which is probably in some cases worse than the coronavirus depending on where you're at in the world.

Joel:

Those awards sound impressive, so way to go.

Chad:

Yeah. Good job Disability Solutions.

Joel:

Good job. Have you seem their SHRM commercial?

Chad:

No.

Joel:

So it's all about diversity and inclusion.

Chad:

Uh-huh (affirmative).

Joel:

Your wife should love it and most people will. They scan through four or five different offices and they have different diverse people in each office and talks about diversity. All the numbers you just started to rattle off, like retention rates and all that good stuff.

Chad:

Yeah.

Joel:

So yeah, SHRM is hitting the DNI stuff really hard, so the time is right apparently for all that good stuff.

Chad:

The time is right, yeah. She's not the very big SHRM lover because of them taking Koch brother money. So yeah, we'll go ahead and we'll go with that. Great ad, great ad, but we think you're full of shit, SHRM.

Joel:

Ouch, man.

Chad:

Hello.

Joel:

Shout out to LinkedIn. I'm thirsty for some Kool-Aid. Someone posted on LinkedIn, imagine that, about LinkedIn sending a congratulatory box with a little water thing and notes and some other stuff saying congratulations on the new job. So somewhere in LinkedIn's algorithm, they're seeing when people change jobs and they're sending little gift packets, which is really great marketing.

Chad:

Yeah. That's pretty cool.

Joel:

So shout out to them for working that algorithm in the right way.

Chad:

Yeah, no question. I don't think they have... Maybe they do have my snail mail address. I never thought about that. I don't think that I've ever put my actual physical address into LinkedIn. I'm going to have to check that out.

Joel:

Well, they probably have work addresses if it's a big company.

Chad:

Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Good point. Big shout out to Brandon Ford, the chief accelerator director at Lubrizol. We met Brandon at The Gathering and became fast friends. Wanted to give him a big shout out, he's a new listener. Great people and amazing times at The Gathering, great meeting you Brandon.

Joel:

And shout out to his beard, it's a glorious thing. I love it.

Chad:

It is, yeah.

Joel:

Shout out to Levi's, they not only make a fantastic denim wear, they announced paid family leave for their workers.

Chad:

Woo-hoo! Yeah, that's good shit.

Joel:

So a step in the right direction there in the retail space.

Chad:

Good shit.

Joel:

Good job, Levi's.

Chad:

Shout out to Steven Rothberg who loves the Voices podcasts. They're about 10-20 minute pieces of conversations we have with awesome fucking people. You can check out the latest, it's called Culture Is The New Discrimination with Robert Ruff. It's about 16 minutes long and it's a great segment of conversation. Having guys like that come on with their opinion and then we just talked to Rick Carsley from IKEA, a pod that actually dropped today, he had an entirely different opinion on it. So it's awesome to not just talk to a set of people that think one specific way, but we have varying opinions. And again, you just continue the conversation.

Joel:

And now I just got really hungry for some Swedish meatballs from the IKEA cafeteria.

Chad:

Oh, God. Damn it.

Joel:

Shout out to Dan Price. No one will know who this cat is, but we talked, I don't know, a few months ago, about a company that gave everyone a minimum of $70,000 a year salaries. So, that's big news.

Chad:

Even himself.

Joel:

Yeah, even himself. He's a millionaire, but that's beside the point. The company is Gravity Payments. As a result of this, in terms of the benefits, they're seeing three times growth, I believe, in the last one or two years from that, retention rate's through the roof. No surprise there, their Glassdoor score is 4.5 out of 5 stars, they're doing all the right things. So I just wanted to give him a little shout out. Dan Price, keep it up there in Seattle, good vibes to you. Love it.

Chad:

Yeah and $70,000 is not a lot of cash for that market, so to be able to have, first and foremost, that kind of pay transparency and that equity throughput the organization is awesome, but for people to be retained only making $70,000 a year... And I say only, but you've got to remember Seattle's a little bit more expensive than most of the markets like we're in, in Indianapolis, so that's pretty amazing.

Joel:

Yep. He had a great quote and story and to get it right, five years after they've initiated this, the business has tripled for the company. But Dan Price had a quote, he said, "people are starving or being laid off or being taken advantage of so that somebody can have a penthouse at the top of a tower in New York in gold chairs." It's bullshit basically. So we like Dan.

Chad:

Yes.

Joel:

Let's get him on the show and talk about this sit.

Chad:

That's a good idea, we should do that.

Joel:

Because we don't have enough content, goddammit.

Chad:

Yeah, no shit. We'll talk about that later.

Joel:

Yeah.

Chad:

So somebody else we also like is the JobBoard Doctor, we haven't heard from him in a little while. He tweeted, I quote, "#chadcheese smartly pointing out that candidate retention is often up when formally incarcerated are hired."

Chad:

That's right, there's no reason why we shouldn't be looking at individuals who have been in prison and have served their debt to society. Ban the box. If it makes sense, Get them into your organization. Stupidest thing in the world that we still have individuals who have been in prison, they come out and they can't feed their family. What do we expect them to do at that point, right?

Joel:

Go back to jail.

Chad:

Yeah. Yeah. And again, putting money in the Koch brother's tiller. Go ahead.

Joel:

By the way, that's also part of the SHRM ad that you haven't seen and the organization that you hate. I'm going to say adios to Facebook chatbots.

Chad:

Oh, yeah.

Joel:

We talk quite a bit about chatbots, but Facebook making some major changes this week. Many of you may remember Poncho, which was the chatbot automation weather app from back in the day. It was a big epic fail. People really don't like automated messages from companies or apps. So chatbots take a bit hit I guess this week in terms of chatbot sort of shutting that whole thing down and moving in a different direction for their discovery on Messenger.

Chad:

Yeah, I think what we'll see is a movement from that to voice-activated. We talked to Gordon Collier this week about voice interaction on job search. I think that's going to be ubiquitous when it comes to just needing information. I don't need you to just push information to me, we've been used to pushing information forever. All I want to do is when I want it, I want to ask for it. And from a voice standpoint whether you have your phone or your Google Assistants or Alexa, I think that's what we're going to be transitioning to.

Joel:

And speaking of push, I want to give a quick shout out to Talkpush.

Chad:

Push it!

Joel:

Our buddies put out a really great blog post this week about surviving the impending recession.

Chad:

Nice.

Joel:

Spoiler alert, automation is the future folks, in case you haven't been listening to the show.

Chad:

Go figure. Heather DeLand, or DeLand, DeLand? I don't know, she's over in the UK. You could say it a bunch of different ways. She's a new listener from AIA Worldwide. Thanks for listening, now go and make sure that all of your office is listening right now. together right now. Make sure they're all listening.

Joel:

All right, and then we're going to talk about robots in this show, but I had to give a special shout out to our robot friend Sophie.

Chad:

Oh, yeah. She's four!

Joel:

She turns four years old. This is the robot with the transparent head. She did a really funny video with Will Smith a year or two ago, which you should check out if you haven't seen that yet. She has legs and arms now, so it's getting creepier and creepier by the year. Happy birthday, Sophie. Can't wait for your fifth birthday and your tenth birthday when you get automated weapons and kill all the humans. I'm excited.

Chad:

More of that to come. And an anonymous shout out to all of those people out there who keep us informed. I know that yours does, my phone blows up when anything is happening. I mean, anything. So keep up the good work Chad Cheese Heads and keep the intel flying our way.

Joel:

That's a deep throat shout out if you will.

Chad:

Yes.

Joel:

For you Nixon fans out there.

Chad:

And for all of those who want to be on the show and we've been getting shit tons of requests, thank you so much, thank you, I have four words for you: be patient and thank you.

Joel:

Well, I'm out of shout outs. I'm going to mention my first travel trip.

Chad:

Yes.

Joel:

I've already talked a couple times about a trip to Vancouver. The name of the event has a name, it's Recruitment Jam, which makes me want to breakout the MC Hammer pants and the Michael Jackson zipper jacket for my trip there and my presentation. So Vancouver April 6-7, I'll be out there for Recruitment Jam.

Chad:

I think they should go with the Space Jam motif really. I mean, that to me makes more sense. We got to also remember that all of our travel brought to you by Shaker Recruitment Marketing. That's right, gear again upgraded this season, kids. Soccer Jersey, North Face vest, Nike, [inaudible 00:13:34]. I mean, we've got Shaker stuff out the wazoo. Not to mention last year's backpacks and this stuff.

Joel:

Soccer Jersey.

Chad:

Yeah, no it's good stuff, so thanks for keeping us outfitted Shaker.