SeekOut vs. Paradox?

One of these topics is not like other podcast topics.

  • A new unicorn.

  • An acquisition.

  • A startup getting funded.

  • Google ticks off their workers.

  • Pay transparency.

  • Selling farts on TikTok for $1,000 a bottle.

If you guessed bottled farts, congrats. Now listen to this episode, covering all the above, and featuring Seekout, FactoryFix, ZipRecuiter, Bullhorn, and more.


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INTRO (1s):

Hide your kids! Lock the doors! You're listening to HR’s most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheeseman are here to punch the recruiting industry, right where it hurts! Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark, buckle up boys and girls, it's time for the Chad and Cheese podcast.

Joel (21s):

Oh yeah. Inflation has increased 7% in the past year. The highest since 1982. And thanks to Door Dash, I've inflated 17% in the last year. Hi kids it's the most famous dose since Lennon and McCartney also known as the Chad and Cheese podcast. This is your cohost Joel "Helter Skelter" Cheeseman.

Chad (43s):

And this is "just Chad" Sowash.

Joel (45s):

And on this week show SeekOut hits unicorn status. ZipRecruiter has a warning and TikTokers farting in jars for fun and profit. How could it go wrong? Let's do this.

Chad (1m 0s):

Oh yeah. My, my opening. That was a shout out for Lieven. Just so you know anybody who's not listening to the Europe podcast. This is the last one had to be the best of them all. They just keep getting better.

Joel (1m 12s):

I agree. The chemistry is finally kicking in. I think.

Chad (1m 16s):

Yeah. We had a Gerard Mulder who is the CEO of Textkernel talk a little bit about the Textkernel/Sovren acquisition and Lieven is just, he's starting to open up and he's funny as fuck.

Joel (1m 29s):

Yeah. He's a standup comedian in hiding. Like he's got a second career if he wants to grab that. Well, let's get to shout out shall we?

Chad (1m 38s):

So I have two big employment brand and marketing announcements. You ready? You ready for this?

Joel (1m 44s):

Oh industry stuff. Okay.

Chad (1m 45s):

Here we go. Here we go. So we are bringing back the cult brand series episodes, and we're doing it by installing a new host. So neither you and I, you and I are going to stay okay, but we're going to have a third wheel. I'm not going to tell you who she is, but she is a CMO in our industry and we're going to be recording our first episode with her live tomorrow for the release next week. She's flying in for dinner. We're going to be day drinking and doing a podcast. I feel like knowing that she's already agreed to fly in, dinner day drinking podcast, she's already going to fit in. So I'm pretty excited about that.

Joel (2m 27s):

So shout out and semi news item here Kelly Lavin, a Jobvites former. Now a chief people officer is leaving the company to join a startup called Niche, which is in the educational matching game, huh? Matches kids with colleges. So we'll miss you Kelly in the industry. Maybe you'll come back some day.

Chad (2m 49s):

Congrats, Kelly. We still want to have beers when we go downtown. Okay. So you're still on the list. Another employment branding, shout out the Talentcast with James Ellis is coming off hiatus after a year and a half. Dude took a, a mega break. He's been working on a 2.0 version of his book Talent Chooses You. And he's going to be putting that out via audio. So audio book style, but on his podcast. So be looking for that, he's already dropped episode zero. It's kind of like the getting ready version. And it is funny as fuck. So if you, if you don't know, James, get out of the corner, number one, but subscribe to the podcast, the Talentcast.

Chad (3m 33s):

Fucking awesome.

Joel (3m 34s):

And he has a substack now. So if you'd rather read some of his shit, look for him on, on Substack, nobody

Chad (3m 42s):

Nobody reads anymore.

Joel (3m 42s):

Yeah. Clearly by the success of this podcast. I've got a shout out to The, the one I predicted is being a shit show as a quickly becoming a shit show. The recruiting site has been ordered by a US district judge to drop the use of the domain name over a trademark dispute. We touted them for actually having Yeah. Anyway, learning management platform, Instructure claims the domain name,, which is leased and not actually owned and its logo contained elements that conflict with Instructure's canvas product and line of business. Canvas tech reportedly says they will be appealing the ruling.

Joel (4m 26s):

Good luck with that. As of this podcast, still does go to

Chad (4m 32s):

Yeah. Probably just going to go ahead and take a step back to and carry on right and get out of that lease. Go ahead and try to try to get out of that lease. A big shout out to another announcement. Damn so many announcements. Jamie Leonard just announced that Rec Fest is happening this year live at Knebworth park on July 7th. That's right kids Knebworth park the legendary. Yes, I am so excited. Unleashed is going to be happening in the US in late March. And now we have this announcement and RecFest.

Chad (5m 13s):

And just another bit of news. That's dropping Joel. I don't know if you know this or not, but the Chad and Cheese will be emceeing the disrupt staPe in July at Knebworth park. We are fucking stoked.

Joel (5m 29s):

And when they ask us to leave the event.

Chad (5m 36s):

I'm not leaving.

sfx (5m 36s):

I'm not fucking, leaving!

Joel (5m 38s):

By the way, I heard that Boris Johnson will be there without a mask. So exciting for that, as well.

Chad (5m 44s):

He goes everywhere without a mask.

Joel (5m 45s):

Apparently he does. He may not be prime minister by the time I get there anyway, a shout out to Snag a Job. Geez. When was the last time we talked about them? Anyway, they got the loan. They went to the loan sharks and hook got hooked up Runway Growth Capital a provider of growth loans to both venture and non venture back companies seeking an alternative to raising equity closed a senior secured term loan. I don't know if that's different than like a teen secured loan or a child secured loan. Anyway, a commitment of $65 million. A news release said the loan will enable Snag a Job to continue investing in its technology and drive growth on the tailwinds of an evolving hourly jobs market.

Joel (6m 27s):

Good luck with that Snag a Job. Shout out to you.

Chad (6m 32s):

Yeah. I've heard from many startups who are looking for funding that some of the VC terms out there are fucking ridiculous. So I can see why Snag white might be doing something like this.

Joel (6m 44s):

I'm just so happy that there'll be advancing their technology because they're such innovators.

Chad (6m 51s):

Shout out to Sepideh Nayeri, hopefully, I'm getting that right and Christie Moon, who are both looking great in their new Chad and Cheese tees, kids. That's right. Joel working, they get free. T-shirts

Joel (7m 7s):

Are you kidding me? Free t-shirts, free whiskey, free beer sponsored by the likes of Emissary, Sovren, Textkernel and our folks at Pillar who was just on a zoom tasting with us this week. Lovely people they are.

Chad (7m 22s):

Good stuff.

Joel (7m 23s):

If you haven't signed up, it's free. It's easy. Shout out to Betsy Norris, by the way, who is this month's whiskey winner.