Indeed Comes Clean, ZipRecruiter Is On The Hunt & Your Job Titles Aren't Amusing Us

Come all ye' faithful if you seek all the latest news and commentary from the world of recruitment. This week the boys take on Indeed, ZipRecruiter and crappy job descriptions. It's not personal, it's just Chad & Cheese, HR's most dangerous podcast.

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The boys would prefer to sip egg nog under the mistletoe, but duty calls.

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Announcer: Hide your kids. Lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinion, and loads of snark. Buckle up, boys and girls. It's time for the Chad and Cheese podcast.

Joel: All right. Let's call this the Easy Like Sunday Morning edition, boys and girls. Welcome to Chad and Cheese, HR's most dangerous podcast. I'm Joel Cheesman.

Chad: And I'm Chad Sowash.

Joel: On this week's show we discuss Indeed's price increase, Stella gets her groove back, and zip-a-dee-doo-dah, ZipRecruiter buys, which means another job boards aren't dead yet segment. Do we know what our listeners want or what?

Chad: No shit.

Joel: Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

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Chad: Or go to, go to the sponsor's area, click on the America's Job Exchange logo, and guess what people? Discounts. Discounts.

Joel: Money, money, money.

Chad: Discounts.

Joel: Everyone needs that at holiday time.

Chad: God damn straight. On diversity hiring, go there now.

Joel: Chad, would be on Santa's naughty or nice list this year?

Chad: Fuck. That's a hard question. I'd say probably naughty being "dangerous explicit rating."

Joel: I think the fact that you dropped an f-bomb in your Santa question, we are naughty to the bone. Yes.

Joel: But let's go to our nice list, which is usually our shout outs.

Chad: Yup.

Joel: I'll do the first one. LinkedIn gets a shout out from me. They listened to us, believe it or not. I'm not saying the entire company, but there are certain folks in leadership and sales folks and partnership people, whether it be on LinkedIn itself or. They don't usually come out on Twitter, 'cause they don't wanna be public about it.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: But it's good to know that LinkedIn's out there listening to us. We love you guys.

Chad: Yeah. And we love anybody coming out, whether they're hitting us on Direct Messenger. You don't have to be public about it. But yeah. Let us know how you feel.

Chad: Now these people were public, because they used the hash chadcheese, the #chadcheese. Kelly Robinson, the founder and CEO of Broadbean now. Broadbean is a career builder property. Kelly, you're British, so snarky is automatic. You don't have to try, buddy. You don't have to try.

Chad: Steve Gilbert, TA leader over at PetSmart.

Joel: The man.

Chad: The man. Thanks for reaching out, man.

Chad: Big shout out to our Philly listeners. Go get them, Ed. Bring them in. We need them.

Joel: Dun-duh-duh-nuh-nuh. Trust the process.

Chad: Kyle Hager, hey. Okay. This guy's like the antithesis of the show, 'cause he is a millennial, and he's a U of M grad, knowing that we're both Ohio State Buckeyes, still gotta love him. He's given us love, and he said he just joined.

Joel: Kyle, get help, dude. Get help. You've got some issues.

Chad: He's getting help. As he continues to listen to Chad and Cheese.

Joel: Actually anyone who publicly acknowledges themselves giving us props, needs probably some professional help.

Chad: Now you're trying to dissuade people? That's not cool.

Chad: And last but not least, the Talent Cast podcast by James Ellis called us goofy, actually this was on his podcast.

Joel: I'm insulted.

Chad: Fuck, man. I don't know.

Joel: I mean, a-holes, dickheads. Something like, idiots.

Chad: Goofy.

Joel: But goofy? Come on.

Chad: HR's most dangerous podcast is goofy. Dude.

Joel: We've got to turn up the volume to 11 is some dude's calling us goofy.

Chad: So what about that, you also had a shout out to Leever or Lever?

Joel: The big one. The big shout out to guerrilla marketer Leela Srinivisan.

Chad: Is it Layla?

Joel: Or Layla or Leela. We don't really know. We don't really know how to pronounce her company name, which is Lever or Leever. We're just that stupid, but okay. So,

Leela. I'll go with Leela. Leela put on a video on LinkedIn.

Chad: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Joel: A lot of people probably saw it. It was her singing a rendition of Silent Night I think. But she put in ATS lyrics.

Chad: Yes.

Joel: And it was totally goofy, I'll call that goofy.

Chad: Yeah it was goofy.

Joel: And according to her, she wrote the lyrics on her way to work and recorded them on her iPhone or iPad and put it out there for the w