CareerBuilder's Trail of Dead


Another week of breaking news highlights this week's show.

- C-suite ejections at CareerBuilder,

- Job.com readies for an IPO and a Monster partnership,

- Government muddies AI interviewing

- Rapid Fire w/ -- Google for jobs France, Love Mondays to Glass Door, Nymeria launches Reach & RecTxt launches

and last but never least

- Whining male managers

Enjoy and show Sovren, JobAdx and Canvas lots of love, because they make hearts skip beats.

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Announcer: Hide your kids. Lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts, complete with breaking news, brash opinion, and load of snarks. Buckle up boys and girls, it's time for the Chad and Cheese Podcast.

Chad: Oh yeah, suckers.

Joel: I'm ready to floss like a boss. Welcome to the Breaking News edition of the Chad and Cheese Podcast: HR's Most Dangerous. I'm Joel Cheesman.

Chad: And I'm just happy that the Saint Louis Blues and Toronto Raptors fucking won.

Joel: My Canadian wife is very happy with the latter of those. On this week's show, more bleeding at CareerBuilder. Good lord. Job.com dropped some mad news on us, and government could derail this whole AI recruiting thing. If you can't listen with the one you love, just love the one you're with, baby. We'll be right back after a word from Sovren.

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Chad: So, let's make this clear, okay? I am not a St Louis blues fan, but what I am a fan of is seeing an organization that has never won a championship beat any fucking Boston organization, because those guys have so many championships as it is. Anybody from the Boston area that are still tearing up because they lost, fuck you guys. I mean, seriously. Look how many championships you guys won.

Chad: And then we take a look at the Toronto Raptors. Again, this is an underdog type of season, which makes me feel ... And I know Joel's going to bring this up, that his Browns possibly have a chance. And I'm going to say-

Joel: Why would you jinx some shit like that, dude? Don't bring that up.

Chad: Dude, there is no jinxing the Browns. Pretty much the Browns equal jinx. They're synonymous with jinx.

Joel: I'm just hoping for a not embarrassing season this year. I mean, the pressure is such that they're bound to totally implode and end up 0 and 16 or something. I'm not expecting the best, but I'm also probably expecting the worst.

Chad: Yeah. Okay. Well, let's go ahead and let's hit this shoutout, because we've got a shit ton of these.

Joel: Yeah, yeah. No tears for Boston, for sure. I'm so sick of Boston teams. All right, who I'm not sick of are the Rothbergs, Steven and Faith, two of our most loyal listeners. Apparently they listen to multiple shows on their deck as they're eating breakfast, lunch, dinner. In my opinion, the married couple that Chad and Cheeses together stays together. So feel the love, the Rothbergs set the example. I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy.

Chad: I have to say the same about companies. The companies that Chad and Cheese together stay together. And one company, KRT, who listens to the podcast, Mona, Olivia, and fanboy Chris. Wait a minute. No, his name's Ryan. Yeah, Ryan. I always forget his name. They sent me a Talk Nerdy To Me starter kit, and you know the whole reason for this thing is that Ryan loves trolling Joel over at Shaker.

Joel: Next up on shoutouts, Andy from Nexxt, who will be publishing that interview I think soon. We had some good lunch and drinks last week, and it was really fun to visit with him. Anyone from Jersey is always fun to hang out with for a little bit.

Chad: Yeah. For small amounts of time, Andy understands this. Short amounts of time. But no, great interview, should pop out ... It'll come out soon, but when you see the interview with Andy Katz, definitely check it out. Katz been in the industry for 25 fucking years. He knows some shit.

Joel: Yeah. We're talking 65 years total, between the three of us, of industry experience. It was good stuff. And the amount of money that he made on newspaper ads back in the day is really ridiculous.

Chad: Oh, God yeah.

Joel: For the youngsters out there, it's a great history lesson for the way things used to be. Shoutout to the gang in Belgium, E-recruiting Congress, House of HR put that on. I had a lovely time in Belgium, the medieval town of [Git 00:05:19]. Things move at a different speed over there in Europe, and it was nice to take a breath and have a beer, and breathe all the second hand smoke.

Chad: And I bet you take a look at ... Even though they do have much more smoking over there, they probably ... There's less dying of heart disease. I'm going to have to check that out, just because they're chilled. There's no stress, little to no stress. And they're drinking all the time.

Joel: It's just ride a bike around, smoke cigarettes, drink beer, sit by the river, look at the architecture. Life moves at a much different speed there in Belgium.

Chad: Exactly. Who else you got?

Joel: Is it too early to bring up Tim Sackett and the-

Chad: No. Tim Sackett needs to get those elevator shoes ready, because his short ass is going to be on stage next week at SmashFly Transform in Boston.

Joel: Do you think he's getting his bow ties dry cleaned this week?

Chad: That's a good question, and I wonder if he ties them himself, or if he does the strap-on. Because he looks like a strap-on kind of guy.

Joel: You know he's only a pair of suspenders and a rolled up pair of jeans away from Urkle town. So Tim, we're waiting for the day, man. We know it's coming.

Chad: Oh, yeah. So we're going to be onstage ... Believe it or not, they're actually bringer us onstage with Delta Airlines. We're doing one of those no bullshit kind of employer brand marketing, and whatever the hell we want to talk about panels. But Holland McCue ... Or is it Dombeck? Holland, you need to figure out what your last name is.

Joel: It's his whole first name.

Chad: Holland's awesome. Anyway, she's the head of employer brand, marketing, and all the cool shit that happens at Delta Airlines. Fiserv's Julia Levy, global talent acquisition's going to be onstage, and JZ. He personally told me he just put himself on the panel because he wanted to piss Sackett off.

Joel: Keep in mind for the newbies out there, this is not the rapper Jay-Z, this is the head of marketing at SmashFly JZ.

Chad: Josh Zywien.

Joel: Zywien. Zywien's World. Party time.

Chad: Then I'll be in Jobg8 in Denver later this month, watching my beautiful wife Julie do her presentation, her thing, onstage. Can't wait to see that. And then ... Here it comes man. RecFest, bitches. RecFest. 3,000 attendees, they're already sold out, guys, sorry. There might be a wait list, so check it out, but anyway. 3000 attendees, five stages, and we are fucking headlining. This is going to be ridiculous.

Joel: The stars and stripes are coming across the pond to break shit at RecFest. Get ready.

Chad: So, do you have your red, white, and blue speedo?

Joel: It was originally a thong, but I thought the audience is a little too conservative. So I'm going to pull it back to speedo-ville. But yeah, the red, white, and blues will be in full force in terms of my attire, I don't know about you.

Chad: Excellent. Yeah, no, I'm not going to go that way. I'm going to allow you to be the center of attention.

Joel: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. All the love.

Chad: I'm here for you. So again, if you're going to be in London, you're going to be at RecFest, look us up. We're also having the guys from Talent Nexus, we're doing some really cool video stuff with them, so look for that. It's just fucking crazy, but we're excited. And that being said, I think it's time to talk about shit. What do you think?

Tengai: Hi. This is Tengai, the unbiased interview robot. You're listening to the Chad and Cheese Podcast. I love these guys.

Joel: All right.

Chad: I just got a text, I shit you not, right before we started recording, from one of my buddies. He's been in the industry for 15, 20 years. He said, "Someday, you're going to have to explain this Tengai shit to me."