Jobvite & iCIMS Attack!

As the world begins to open up from corona, it's refreshing to see companies in our space act like nothing ever happened like

- Jobvite and iCIMS are on the attack

- Indeed Bro-culture issues

- Modern Hire shaky relationship rumors

- UberWorks dives into the Dead Pool

and it's time to celebrate the number of female CEOs in the F500? No!

We cover all this, as well as a new round of investment and acquisitions in our space.

Enjoy and show sponsors Jobvite, Sovren, and JobAdx some much-needed love ... as long as it's from 6-feet away, that is.


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Intro: Hide your kids, lock the doors, you're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark. Buckle up boys and girls, it's time for The Chad and Cheese Podcast.

Joel: Boom shakalaka. 2.4 million claimed unemployment in the US last week, bringing the nine week total to 38.6 million people. Oh, and the Indi-500 is postponed. So how's your day going? Welcome to The Chad and Cheese Podcast boys and girls, I'm your co-host Joel, someone mix me a quarantini, Cheesman.

Chad: And I'm Chad, I already have a bourbon, Sowash.

Joel: And on this week's show, iCIMS and Jobvite say, "Pandemic? What pandemic?" Grocery store, Kroger waffles and rape allegations at Indeed. Rumor has it, Memorial Day is coming soon, but I'm not even sure what month it is. Take a listen to one of our beloved sponsors while I go grab my Franklin Covey day planner and figure it all out.

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Chad: Are you feeling better? We had NASCAR and golf last weekend, which means sports is coming back. Not the two sports that I really get excited about, but getting the toe in the water, sports is coming back. And as we talked about before, would football make it back this year? Well, NASCAR ran in a track in an empty stadium. I think we'll see the same thing with the NFL.

Joel: Yeah. It sounded like California is just going to flip the switch and say, "Sports with no fans," and just say, "Fuck it." So, fingers crossed. But it does look like college sports will be much less easy to come by next season.

Chad: Yeah, possibly.

Joel: Possibly. And this week is the Tiger Woods, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady Lefty Series, isn't it? Or did I miss that already?

Chad: I'm excited to watch this just because it's going to be so funny. And I think Peyton, he's just fucking hilarious. The dude is smart. He's hilarious. And we know that like the the on-mic times, they're going to be classic. This is going to be classic.

Joel: Yeah. Rumor has it, they're redoing some sort of Caddyshack scene or moment. So yeah, Peyton as Bill Murray. Who knows. Who knows.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: Or Bill Murray could show up, for all we know.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: Sure, he loves golf.

Chad: Bill Murray didn't show up to the COVID graduation that happened last weekend. Did you see that last Saturday?

Joel: I did. And this was the Obama speech, right?

Chad: Yeah. LeBron James actually hosted Jonas Brothers, all these names, a lot of them I didn't know because I'm not a teenager, I don't listen to that shit. But overall, at the end of this, trying to make the best out of lemons, making lemonade out of lemons, it was pretty cool. To see president Obama actually give that commencement speech is kind of a kick in the nuts to Trump and, we would have never had Obama even via video, do that file for our graduation. So yeah, pretty cool.

Joel: Yeah. Just make sure there's either a whisky or some vodka in that lemonade that you're making over there.

Chad: Always.

Joel: Yeah. It's interesting to see Obama take digs at a sitting president. That's pretty rare, I don't think I've, or we have ever seen that in our lifetime. But it's maybe well-deserved.

Chad: Have we ever seen what we've been through in the last three plus years.

Joel: Good point. Good point. Good point. My bad.

Chad: All right. Let's do some shout outs. My first shout out, you're going to remember this kid, you love him. His name is [Luke Abral 00:04:43.23]. He has videos on YouTube called Luke's Views. He's an 11 year old who we met in Banff, Canada at the cult gathering. And he did a Yeti product review. Now, if you guys remember when we were in Banff, we were on stage with Bill Neff from Yeti

SFX: Hell yeah.

Chad: ... Wwho is like one of the best dudes ever. Well, he met up with Luke and Luke said, "Hey, I'd like to do some Yeti reviews," because what Luke does is he does reviews for camping from a kid's view, not from an adult's view, but from a kid's view. And Bill sent him a load of Yeti camping gear.

Joel: Nice. Nice. Nice. I'm still waiting on my hat, but ... Yeah, that's good Luke. That's good Luke.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: By the way, we don't have time, but one day we should do your Yeti cooler story. Not time on this one. Not time on this one. Shout out to Joe Rogan. If you're a podcast aficionado, and I know you are, if you're listening to our podcast, you're probably aware that podcaster, comedian and all around, good guy I guess, Joe Rogan, sold the podcast for $100 million to Spotify in a Howard Stern kind of moved to Sirius XM. Shout out to him, man, he's really rich, and hopefully, some of us little, bottom pit of podcasters can get a little piece of what you got at some point.

Chad: Shit, he had a stage already. He was a stand up comedian, the fear factor guy. So he had these things rolling for him already. So he had a leg up. Good for him and hopefully someday, we might be able to sell for, I don't know, a 10th of that.

Joel: Yeah. He's been podcasting for a long time.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: I didn't realize 2009 was the first Joe Rogan Experience Podcast.

Chad: Not an overnight thing.

Joel: In a world where music is the commodity, buying up content through podcasting is a smart move. Juries out of whether or not Sirius XM has been better because of Stern, but, Spotify is a really popular service. But if you want to get people from not going over to Apple Music or any of the other competitors, you've got to have some unique content and buying a podcast, well, certainly, certainly does that.

Chad: Agreed. Agreed. Big shout out to Mike Stirfage, Stirfige.

Joel: Stiffy.

Chad: Stiffy. Yeah, there you go. CEO over at [Aaron 00:07:14.28], he just started listening to the show. Where have you been Mike? Jeez. But anyway, he said after listening to the show, he's an instant fan. Big fabulous. Big shout out to Jeff Smith over at SupportingLines, and Mike Warner, new addition to the Joveo staff.

Joel: Very nice. Very nice. I'm going to machine gun a few rumors, things that we've seen online this week or heard. I heard a rumor, Phenom People is developing some sort of a one stop shop to integrate with multiple platforms, like ATS's and CRM's.

Chad: It's called an API.

Joel: Yeah. Well, no one's done it. And how do you cost effectively do that? I don't know. I don't know. We'll see what happens. It's kind of like the HRNX platform for background check companies or something.

Chad: Yeah.

Joel: So that's in the works. I'm hearing AllyO rumors that they are desperately hoping to sell the company at some point soon, but they're not getting a whole lot of interest to date.

Chad: Big shout out to the job board doctor. Big shout out to him for schooling you on the state of niche job boards.

Joel: Please.

Chad: Still very anecdotal, right? We don't have real numbers on this shit, but Jeff pays close attention to the rise and fall of job boards as closely as you pay attention to blow up dolls on the clearance rack. So I know he knows what he's talking about.

Joel: Oh, I got a story, and it's totally unrelated.

Chad: Okay.