Indeed Rumors

While the likes of Facebook, Amazon, Google and Apple are on trial for anticompetitive behavior, maybe Indeed should be thrown in the mix too.

  • Indeed rumors of cutting programmatic competition off at the knees

  • Naughty-naughty, much like Civvl, "the Uber of eviction teams." Classy.

  • Outmatch and Launchpad provide hope

  • and the Great People Migration where NYC experiences a 23% drop

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INTRO (16s):

Hide your kids! Lock the doors! You're listening to HR’s most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheeseman are here to punch the recruiting industry, right where it hurts! Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark, buckle up boys and girls, it's time for the Chad and Cheese podcast.

Joel (23s):

A citric survey says two thirds of employees believe that by 2035 workers with microchips and planted in their bodies will have an unfair advantage in the labor market. So yeah, the welcoming of the end of days is now here. This is the Chad and Cheese podcast, everybody. I'm your cohost "Robo" Joel.

Chad (44s):

And I'm Chad "timeout" Sowash.

Joel (47s):

And this week we have migrating people, Patagonia and pushups, Oh, and Indeed rumors.

Chad (-):


Joel (57s):

We'll be right back.

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Chad (1m 23s):

Did you watch the Emmys?

Joel (1m 27s):

I watched some of it. I want to say football may have interrupt in may, although I did see quite a few of the Schitt's Creek monopoly of awards in the first hour or so.

Chad (1m 40s):


Joel (1m 40s):

I assume that's what you want to talk about.

Chad (1m 44s):

That and the experience overall, I mean seriously, who needs to get all those people into one room when you could have an experience like they had? I mean, Jimmy Kimmel, some of his shit fell flat, but it would have fell flat anyway. But it was really cool, they were going back and forth to all these different parties that they were having. And it just, it seemed more natural, more organic and it was more fun. I liked it, but yeah, Schitt's Creek won best comedy series, supporting actress, supporting actor, writing lead actress, lead actor, directing.

Chad (2m 19s):

If you haven't seen Schitt's Creek go to Netflix right now. Add it right now, very uncomfortable, especially at first, but Oh my God, it's amazing!

Joel (2m 28s):

I do recall seeing, well, you know, the, the Zoomification, I guess, of the nominees and how they're shown on the screen was fun. I seem to remember one that was topless sort of walking around the house. One was in their pajamas. So there's a certain level level of artistic freedom. I guess, that these folks can takem that they can't take in a ballroom, you know, with their Prada or whatever, whatever name, brand label you want to have when you're dressed up and looking at your best.

Chad (2m 58s):

Yeah, we'll think of, think of the green, the green kind of like footprint that you're, you're leaving instead of carbon footprint that you would be, right? All the people that had to fly in more traffic, all this, it just it's overall, it was more fun experience I thought. And who the fuck needs a red carpet anyway? I mean, come on.

Joel (3m 21s):

Well, entertainment television for sure does cause they need a red carpet and interviews and people looking their best.

Chad (3m 27s):

Fuck them.

Joel (3m 27s):

And I know for one, my wife really enjoys watching that part of the program. So I don't think the Zoomafication of Emmy's or any Oscar award shows is going to be a normal thing once we get out of this

Chad (3m 40s):

Shout outs

Joel (3m 40s):

Shout outs.

Chad (3m 43s):

Okay. My first Shout Out goes to our Aussie friend, Andrea Kirby. She shared a meme that said American needs guns to defend themselves. And then the actual meme showed a Melbourne Australian man who fought off a carjacker with a Nescafe blend 43 jars. I'm sorry. I'm assuming that 43 ounce was a 43 ounce bottle. I don't know, but Lauren Sharp, piped in.

Chad (4m 14s):

She piled on it was fucking crazy Aussies. I, I love them.

Joel (4m 17s):

Aussies are fun. Sort of a somber Shout Out RBG Supreme court justice Ginsburg. Yes. Everyone knows passed away this week. Fortunately, Congress was able to, you know, honor her dying wish and not vote for a new Supreme Court Justice until the election is over anyway.

Chad (4m 36s):

Not going into that one. Fuck.

Joel (4m 36s):

Yeah, insensitivity, but obviously Justice Ginsburg women can have mortgages and bank accounts and all kinds of stuff because of some of the initiatives that she championed. So we would, we would be amiss to not give RBG a Shout Out on the show.

Chad (4m 58s):

And a lot of love. I tell you, having two daughters, obviously you having a daughter too. I mean, we have strong wives that they can look up to, but she is also somebody just from a historic standpoint that you know, our daughters can look up to and that those are the things that mean a lot to me.

Joel (5m 19s):

Yeah. And prove that you can get stuff done without yelling and beating your chest and clubbing things like she did it with class grace and intelligence. And that was cool.

Chad (5m 30s):

Yeah, her brain. She out-brained mother fuckers. Somebody who probably outbrain's us all, Jodi Brandstetter, she's the author of the book Hire by Design. She's not far from us. She's over in Loveland, Ohio. She loves the podcast and Kipp Birtwistle, I bet he got beat up at school with that name director of TA at Caliber Collision, he is such a big fan of the show, he has most of his TA managers listening and I'm, I'm asking most?

Chad (6m 3s):

Mandatory listening Kipp, a hundred percent. Come on, man.

Joel (6m 7s):

And what was that last name again?

Chad (6m 8s):


Joel (6m 8s):

Kerfluffle okay. Alright.

Chad (6m 12s):

Kipp Kerfluffle.

Joel (6m 12s):

Only Cheeseman is worse, everybody only Cheeseman is worse. Shout Out to "immunity discrimination." This is something that I just heard this week, but apparently there's a story around that. Employers will start practicing immunity discrimination, meaning if you don't have the vaccine, if you're not immune to COVID, you're gonna have a hard time in the workplace. So it's first time I've heard it.

Joel (6m 43s):

It won't be the last Shout Out to quote "immunity discrimination."

Chad (6m 47s):

It's it's another one of those topics that people are using to Gaslight every fucking thing else that's out there. It's like we have this overabundance of bullshit topics that are just coming out, just all over the place. And this is one of those.

Joel (7m 0s):

Dammit. We're going to talk about it.

Chad (7m 2s):

Yeah. Shout Out to Jason Banks, he knows we love lists. So he created his own list on LinkedIn with a Thursday top four podcast for staffing recruiting, talent and sales. And obviously he listed Chad and Cheese.

Joel (7m 19s):

Of course, of course. Shout Out to Jennifer Ravalli. Jennifer is now VP of marketing at PandoLogic, a sponsor of the show and was formerly at ICMs. We're talking 15 years experience PandoLogic is better off and, and poaching is always fun, so I'm not sure that happened, but Hey, a nice win for, for our folks at Pando and Jennifer. Good luck that, that

Chad (7m 44s):

It was a big win. A big Shout Out to David Falwell absolutely love the podcast and always hears great reviews. I like reviews. So that being said, do what David just talked about, go give us a review about, on the podcast, on whatever podcast platform you use. And give us some real feedback none of that mamby, pamby, jumbo, bullshit that you see on other podcasts "Oh, I love it so much." Yeah. Give us real feedback. If we don't get a five star review, that's fine.

Chad (8m 15s):

We're okay with that. That just means that we're ruffling feathers and that's,

Joel (8m 20s):

It is what it is. A Shout Out to two guys at paradox that agreed to sit down with us and talk chat bots, AI football. What else do we talk about? All kinds of good stuff. Josh Zywien, Adam Godson. If you haven't listened to the interview with Paradox, go check that out in our archives. It's well worth your while. Yeah.

Chad (8m 41s):

I still think the chat bot versus conversational AI narrative is a bunch of marketing bullshit.

Joel (8m 47s):