Amazon Ruins Everything


Remember liking that tweet 3 years ago expressing disdain for the president?

Imagine if it gets you fired 10 years from now? Well, welcome to the future, and the boys cover a company who’s monitoring your online behavior to facilitate such corporate behavior.

Additionally, this week’s episode covers

- Slack’s comeback,

- Indeed’s moon landing ad?

- Amazon ruins everything

- HEB gives employees 10 millions reasons to cheer!

and much more.

Enjoy this week’s stimulating episode, sponsored by Canvas, JobAdx, and Sovren.

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Jim Stroud:

15 minutes ago, the world changed. Companies are micro-chipping their workers. Robots are hiring humans, and brain-to-brain communication is a thing. This is all happening now. If you want to know what happens next, listen to The Jim Stroud Podcast.

Intro:

Hide your kids. Lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts, complete with breaking news, brash opinion, and loads of snark. Buckle up, boys and girls. It's time for The Chad & Cheese Podcast.

Chad:

Woo.

Joel:

All right, all right, all right. The week's big winners? Buttigieg and Parasite. As long as it's not a parasite on my booty. Welcome to The Chad & Cheese Podcast, kids. I'm your cohost, Joel Cheesman.

Chad:

And I am Chad Sowash.

Joel:

On this week's episode, those Twitter likes can get your ass fired, get ready for robot resources to join human research, and Slack bites back, along with your employee of the month. Time to go look in the mirror and judge my booty. We'll be right back after a word from Sovren.

Chad:

Not happening.

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Joel:

What's the line from Full Metal Jacket, when he says, "Pal, your ass looks like two pounds of chewed bubblegum," or something like that? That's pretty much my situation right about now. What's up, Chad?

Chad:

Too much information.

Joel:

Too much information. That's what we do on the show.

Chad:

Yeah. Don't just spread TMI like it's... Yeah.

SFX:

Hell yeah.

Chad:

You need protection to listen to this show. Good, man. It's been a good week. It's been an interesting week. We got a lot of good shit to talk about, so let's do this, though. Before we get into the really good stuff, we have a death in the family that we have to report.

Joel:

Okay.

Chad:

Employee Guide has finally...

Joel:

Oh, shit.

Chad:

... like a goldfish, needed the flush.

Joel:

That's nice. Employee Guide, for many that don't know, was a regional free paper, which I guess they still do in some parts of the world, where you go to the corner of the whatever, Main and 6th, and there's free papers you can take. This one used to be a free paper for jobs, obviously wasn't going to scale into the 20th century very well. They had a website that supported that. I actually was a keynote for them back in the mid-2000s. They had an annual event. I also did some SEO stuff for them back in the day. I sort of knew about them. They were like 100 employees strong. They were a big organization, but the jungle is the jungle, man, and they are apparently Audi 5000, G.

Chad:

They were grasping at straws. "Hey, let's get that Cheesman cat in here. Maybe he can throw some search engine tips."

Joel:

Yeah, if you're going to attempt to blame me for their demise, you got another think coming, pal.

Chad:

No, they're already on their way down. They could only afford you, is what I'm saying. That's how far down the rabbit hole they were.

Joel:

That's true. They were at the bottom of the keynote speaker list, for sure.

Chad:

There's somebody else at the bottom of our list. You noticed a stupid fucking article that led back to TheLadders, and they have this new logo or something.

Joel:

Oh, God, TheLadders, yes. We've talked about their, I guess, content marketing strategy a while back, and how they're kind of like TMZ and that shit, and trying to get paid views, and then once people go to the site. Every now and then I like to go check and see what kind of dumbass articles they've published, so this past week, I came across this gem title, "Doing This Many Pushups Reduces Heart Risk by 96%." Classic bait-and-switch, get that SEO traffic, and then get that resume mill, that profile mill going. Now, I also noticed that they have a new logo. It's ladders, and then... Hold on, give me a sec.

Chad:

100K Club.

Joel:

Yeah, 100K Club, which they really haven't pushed since their founding, their original business model, but if you do a search for jobs, many of the jobs are not 100,000K or more a year, so it's a nice marketing tool, but it doesn't quite hold mustard with the reality of the site.

Chad:

No, and it's interesting, because I don't know if they still do, they probably do, they used to charge job seekers to be able to gain access to this coveted list of 100K plus jobs, and as the VP of Business Development over at DirectEmployers, I dealt with all the partnerships, they were taking jobs from us. There was nothing there that was coveted by any form or fashion. You could find them on just about any job site, because I think we were feeding the exact same fucking jobs to 3,000 plus different job sites. "Here's the bait-and-switch. Pay me $19.95 a month," or whatever the hell it was.

Joel:

I really wish these guys would just fucking go away. They're really annoying. They need to go the way of the employment guide.

Chad:

It's a slow death. That being sad, you also brought up Indeed's new Oscars commercial, because we've been talking about Gary the Groundhog, and how they can't use him ever again. As a matter of fact, we're going to pull him over to Chad & Cheese side of the house, but the new Oscar commercial was kind of confusing, wasn't it?

Joel:

I thought it was funny. For those who watched the Oscars, I'm sure they've been running it since that, but basically, the gist is they show the moon landing, they show Houston with all the screens and the scientists and the mathematicians, and they even show the janitor, but it was basically saying, "Hey, everyone pitches in. Everyone's important," sort of saying, "Hey, we have a job very everyone." Of course, as I'm watching this, I'm thinking to myself, "None of these people, back in 1969, got their job through Indeed, so the relevance of it is really stupid. Everyone probably got recruited, or found a job in a newspaper, and the internet wasn't even around." Why they chose the moon landing to pimp their internet job search site was just sort of stupid. Why don't you just have the signing of the Constitution, or maybe the Magna Carta, or some shit like that before Indeed was around.

Chad:

They couldn't find a big brand that everybody knew and do the same kind of thing where they actually helped them hire different levels of people in their organization, because everybody fucking hates them, so they had to make some shit up about a moon landing. I do like the signing of the Constitution, though. I think they should probably pick that one up.

Joel:

Keep swinging, Indeed. Eventually you'll get that TV commercial right.

Chad:

Okay, shout outs. I'm going to start the shout outs today with my Maya swag, the cool hat. I'm sure you finally got yours. Cool hat, T-shirt, beer glass. The company is sending better swag again. The trend continues to move on. I enjoy it.

Joel:

Yeah, I was hoping that because you got yours so much earlier than mine, that there might be some liquid refreshment in my box. However, there was not. Whatever, Maya, I appreciate the T-shirt. That's fun. Shout out to Tim Hawk, one of our favorite listeners. He loves the transcriptions, which a lot of people do, but last week, my line, "Old school rap," got turned into, "Old school rape," by our transcription service-

Chad:

Not good.

Joel:

... which, as you can imagine, caught the eye of a few people, including Tim, so Tim, thank you for pointing that out. That could have been really bad for my SEO in the future, for whatever reason, but no, it was old school rap.

Chad:

And it is old school rap now, because I was actually taking lunch and he messaged us, and I'm like, "Well, fuck." I made my way back home and changed it, but yeah, transcription service is good, but obviously not 100%.

Joel:

It's not perfect. Fortunately, Tim Hawk is perfect.

Chad:

Tim Hawk is pretty perfect, and staying on the error side of the house, I really shouldn't do math on the fly. We had to do a readjustment to the Indeed math that we shared last week from the Indeed switcheroo segment. It's $960 per year, not per month, for 30 contacts per month, so it's kind of a switcheroo right there. You're per year, then per month, so you've got close to $1,000 a year for 30 contacts per month, which equals about $2.70 per contact, so whenever you actually press that button, that's what's going to happen.

Joel:

Sorry math. Math just zones me out. I apologize for that.