Coronavirus Edition


Best of times, worst of times ... while the coronavirus ravages the world and employers take notice, money continues to flow into startups and acquisitions in our space. Something's gotta give, right?

The boys discuss these two opposing forces in this week's episode while also finding time to discuss creeping propositioning by CEO's to women, compliments of LinkedIn.

Enjoy this Tamiflu-inspired episode, as always, sponsored by Canvas, JobAdx and Sovren.

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Intro:

Hide your kids, lock the doors. You're listening to HRS most dangerous podcast Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark. Buckle up boys and girls its time for the Chad and Cheese Podcast.

Joel:

Welcome to the black plague edition of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, boys and girls. I'm your barely surviving co-host Joel Cheesman

Chad:

And this is Chad. I am so glad I'm not in the same room as you Sowash.

Joel:

And on this week show, all big dick energy on the acquisition and investment front while the economy burns, of course. Workday is canceling and homie don't play that. Grab some Kleenex and pour yourself a hot cup of soup, we'll be right back after a massive intake of fluids.

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Joel:

I am your father.

Chad:

Yeah. So you got checked, you don't have the coronavirus, right?

Joel:

No coronavirus but Type A flu. I wasn't aware there were different types of flu but I have A. And I'm the final recipient of this lovely flu in our household, so I get to have a nice weekend apparently.

Chad:

Yeah, you just stay quarantined and away from the rest of the population that we would really appreciate.

Joel:

Roger that.

Chad:

And rest. So a couple of weeks ago you gave a shout out and I thought, you know what? I'm actually going to listen to this podcast. It's called Trailblazers with Walter Isaacson. The subject was job search, not entirely human resources. Dude, it was such garbage. I can't believe you actually told people to listen to this thing. We're going to have to do an interview that actually straightens out all this fluffy bullshit revisionist history stuff. Jeff Taylor, Dick Johnson. Dick Johnson was actually good. Arena was on it for God's sakes. I mean, dude it was a total fucking puff piece.

Joel:

After you just said, Dick Johnson was good on it. I appreciate that you want to come at me while I have the flu and my ability to fight back is minimized but, okay, so let's be specific. Did you feel they were lying? I mean Arena, whatever. I just thought that historical perspective of the two Superbowl ads, hot jobs rolling the dice, some history on Monster. I mean specifically, what did you hate about it? Was it lies? Was it-

Chad:

I mean mainly except again for the hot jobs commercial, which I thought was awesome. The rest of it is like they were setting up Monster, and Jeff Taylor was talking about Monster and the only reason monster.com actually existed is because The Monster Board was a piece of shit. TMP, actually took OCC, which was a better technology and The Monster Board and Monster. I mean Jeff did have a better flare to himself and better to marketing flair. So all they did was they took the OCC tech, redirected the tech to put it on, monster.com. With not The Monster Board but monster.com and put new colors on it. I didn't mind the pieces of the commercial on the Superbowl but it was so puffy. Maybe it wasn't that bad from somebody who was looking for a puff piece and you're a puff piece guy. But for a guy like me, I want to dive into the actual details and really figure out the real stories and it just wasn't there.

Joel:

This is a Generalist Podcast featuring Walter Isaacson, which I think you'll even agree is a reputable personality and professional.

Chad:

He did no research.

Joel:

I didn't spin the show as deep insight into the industry. It sounds you're just mad that your former employer, OCC wasn't mentioned at all.

Chad:

That dude did no research whatsoever. He was a puff piece. That's a thing.

Joel:

He's telling a story. He's not doing critical interviewing and reporting.

Chad:

It was fucking horrible.

Joel:

And you are a tough critic. God damn.

Chad:

Sometimes our shit's bad too.

Joel:

I mean, take it for what it's for, it was not a Geraldo 2020, 60 minutes deep dive into the industry. It was a little story about a time in place.

Chad:

It was a puff piece.

Joel:

I'm going to give a shout out to Tamiflu, which is actually making me even able to talk to you today. Tamiflu, miracle drug if you're on the flu, Tamiflu.

Chad:

Tamiflu.

Joel:

Available at Walgreens, CVS and Rite Aid near you.

Chad:

And hopefully the following people do not have to take the Tamiflu. Tyler Weeks from Intel, who's the head of HR Data Science, Allyn Bailey TA Transformation Leader at Intel and Bill Neff, the VP of Consumer Marketing at Yeti, to be able to get those guys on the stage and have a holistic discussion of brand and how talent does either positively or negatively affect consumer brand. It was really interesting that it... I mean onstage, you could see it actually hit Bill in the face and he's like, "Fuck. This is incredibly relevant." So thanks to those guys.

Joel:

So to me, if there's any teaser it was CMO of Yeti saying he had never heard of employer branding until our conversation. So to me this is a timely, very important podcast for industry as well as marketing. So if you're in TA share this episode with your marketing department, I think it's a must listen for them and hopefully can get some dialogue started if there isn't any in your organization between TA and marketing.

Chad:

The title of the podcast is called Brand Revelation

Joel:

And let's not forget SmashFly and Symphony Talent for sponsoring the event. Big ups to Elise and Gina for being there and always been awesome. Shout out to... I'm going to screw this up. [Levan Van Hiza 00:07:03]. Levan is out of Belgium and he runs House of HR, I spoke at their event last year. Anyway, he is going to unleash a UK, which will be at the... I don't know, the sister event TA tech. And he's attending because he heard our show. So he's buying a ticket so you're welcome. unleash Levan will see you in London and have some Belgian beers hopefully.

Chad:

Yeah, no shit. Quick shout out to Fama.io CEO Ben Mones. He took some hard questions around social media monitoring. I mean, from the privacy standpoint, from the idea of big brother watching you, no matter where you're at on Twitter or on Facebook, what or wherever it might be. It's an eerie feeling. Then this is under the podcast entitled Somebody's Watching me, so check it out

Joel:

And I want to apologize to you for all the sniffles and coughs that you're going to have to edit out on this show, much apologies. Shout out to Layton Davison, a student out in Calgary, Canada. Who has attended two gatherings in a row and recognized us last week because he was so impressed with our first podcast from the show that he wanted to give us some love at the show. So Layton Davidson man keep studying. Get that degree and maybe you'll be on the show one day.