Adecco Ménage à trois

In a shortened holiday week, the podcast is loaded with solid content. We're talkin' acquisitions like..

- Adecco - errrr Vettery - auction sale of Hired

- VONQ has it's eyes on the U.S.

- New York City getting tough on A.I. hiring - Thanks HireVue!

- Unwoke's dip into the deadpool

- DICE is just f#$%ing embarrassing

...and much, much more. Grab some pumpkin pie, put on your fat boy pants and enjoy another active week in recruitment, as always, powered by Jobvite, Sovren and JobAdx.


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INTRO (1s):

Hide your kids! Lock the doors! You're listening to HR’s most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheeseman are here to punch the recruiting industry, right where it hurts! Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark, buckle up boys and girls, it's time for the Chad and Cheese podcast.

Joel (22s):

It ain't cool being no jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving, everybody. Welcome to HR's most dangerous podcast. AKA the Chad and Cheese podcast. I'm your cohost Joel "another old fashioned, please" Cheeseman.

Chad (37s):

And I'm Chad "just give me the damn shot" Sowash.

Joel (42s):

On this week's show Hired gets hired, Dice innovates like it's 2013, and Unwoke goes broke! Pass the stuffing and put on your fat boy pants everybody, we'll be right back.

Sovren (55s):

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Joel (1m 54s):

Fat boy pants, or as I like to call them pants.

Chad (2m 1s):

Oh shit, dude. I got to say, man, I didn't realize that the Philadelphia Eagles were worse than the Browns. Wtf, didn't they just win like a super bowl a few years ago? What's going on here?

Joel (2m 14s):

Dude, there's a whole division that's worse than the Brown Slake, the NFC East is so bad. I can't fathom it. And I think the Eagles are in first place. Like that's how bad that division is. They're three, five and one or three, six, and one, and are in first place from Browns or I'll start off shadows with the Browns, like the Brown seven and three, second place. They're not catching the Steelers, but hell let's go to the playoffs. Let's 2020 this bitch and win a Super Bowl because that would be the most 2020 thing ever. Cleveland Browns, Super Bowl champs in a stadium with nobody in it. That would be 2020 to a tee.

Chad (2m 51s):

Well Victoria Conley, Ed from Philly and all of our, all of our Philadelphia listeners. I got nothing guys. I got nothing. My first shout out is to the LinkedIn poll that I put out there. And the question I posed was will you take the COVID vaccine as soon as it is available? It's been out there for a week. 52% said yes, 48% said no. And I mean, we all have, we all have different reasons. And in Torin actually said, Torin Ellis said "not a chance. Given how the medical system has too often abuse, misaligned, and misinformed, the black community, I'm waiting."

Chad (3m 35s):

This is coupled with the newness of the vaccine, a need to gather more real life data. There's just a ton of reasons why there's no way in hell that Torin is going to take it. He said, he's going to continue to limit movement and wear his damn mask and, and Torin, I love your brother, but I'm sick and tired of limiting my movement. Give me the shot.

Joel (3m 57s):

The shot had to be put in a testicle. I'd be like, pick, pick one, whichever one you want, like vacs me up, baby. I don't, I want to go back to traveling and being out in the world, like, but it's interesting that he brought an ethnic, like race, race part to this.

Chad (4m 14s):

IT's true.

Joel (4m 14s):

I never, I never, I never thought about, I mean, they, they don't, they don't typically release vaccines based on race, but I've just never thought of that angle. Like, Hey, have blacks been screwed with vaccines in the past? I guess so.

Chad (4m 28s):

Just the healthcare system overall. It's like, look, let's just go ahead and push away from the table. I'll wait.

Joel (4m 35s):

Next shout out. Talk Push our buddies that push it real good turn six, six years old. That's not six days, six weeks or six months. They turned six years old. Max and team keep pushing, man. You're doing good stuff. Talk Push it real good. Turn six. Almost ready for first grade.

Chad (4m 54s):

Yep. Yep! Pia over there is killing it on the marketing side. Keep it going. My next shout out is to Collin Parker from Crelate who sent us some Seattle whiskey. I haven't tried it yet, but it was free. So there's no question I'm going to drink it. He wanted to say, thanks for helping him get back up to speed. He left the industry for a bit and needed a crash course, which is what the Chad and Cheese is here to do. So we provided him with a crash course on what the fuck was happening in the industry. Our pleasure, Collin, keep the alcohol coming.

Joel (5m 28s):

I have tried it. I will say that Northwest whiskey is a little bit different. It's a little, little earthier, a little more, little more biscuit, sort of flavor and sense. So yeah, I'll be interested to hear your opinion on, on something outside of the, the middle of the country here, so close to Kentucky that we enjoy. Shout out to Shaker got an email from them today actually. Shaker, we can say new website, support of the show, but yeah, sending out popcorn and I don't know if we're supposed to share this because maybe it's just for clients and friends, but fuck it. Yeah. Go to to put in your name for some free popcorn and who doesn't love some free popcorn.

Joel (6m 9s):

That's what I'm talking about.

Chad (6m 10s):

That's what I'm talking about.

Joel (6m 11s):


Chad (6m 11s):

Big shout out to Leandro Gomes da Silva Senior Recruiter over at Thanks for connecting and listening Leandro. We enjoy our listeners connecting with us. I know Joel, you know, when he wakes up from a nap, he loves to see the notifications of people trying to connect with us, not to mention having discussions, kind of like sidebar discussions, definitely connect with us individually on LinkedIn or Twitter. Just look us up on Facebook. We have a Chad and Cheese page, so like it and enjoy.

Joel (6m 45s):

No doubt, no doubt. Shout out to Quincy Valencia the queen. If you haven't heard the episode of the Thanksgiving episode, you got to check that out released earlier this week. Quincy, thanks for amusing, you know, humoring us and coming on the show.

Chad (6m 59s):

Thanks man. Yeah. Thanks for classing up the joint. Big shout out to John Thurmond over at HR social hour, he knew that I was getting thirsty. So he sent to an HR social hour bottle opener. And this thing's legit. Did you get one of those?

Joel (7m 15s):

It weighs about eight pounds. I got it in the mail. Like how, how did this get here with just a one, you know, one, a first class stamp. They must have connections at the post office or something. Shout out to Slack. God, we've talked about these guys forever. They're allegedly in talks with Salesforce to get acquired. So this, this, this drop today, this will be something I'm sure we'll dig into a little bit more next week, but shout out to them in, in Salesforce, it looks like is getting into the enterprise messaging business in a big way. So yeah, it's finally happening. Slack is getting bought.

Chad (7m 51s):

They need to, they really do. Big shout out to Aja Eric and Elise over at Symphony Talent for sending yet another bottle of Blanton's kids!

Joel (8m 2s):

We're not worthy. We're not worthy.

Chad (8m 5s):

They know what helps us get prepped for another transform. And that being said, we've got an event coming up. As a matter of fact, we just taped our session. Symphony's transform is happening on December 3rd. And I have to say that when you register, do yourself a favor and pick the insider experience. I actually got my box today. My VIP box today, legit swag in the box to heighten the experience, just Google Symphony Talent transform, treat yourself and enjoy.

Joel (8m 39s):

And, and for self promotion purposes, make sure that you check out the Pinterest keynote session and especially the intro for that, because my ass still has some sweat in the crack because I would sit next to the fire for so long videotaping that goddamn intro. So you better watch it people. you better watch it.

Chad (8m 59s):

That's what happens when I make Joel do about 27 takes.

Joel (9m 3s):

You make me make me well Blanton's won't fit in your pocket, but you know what will? Chad and Cheese will, if you don't have this in your pocket, make sure you text CC. That's the letter C N C to (833) 799-0321. That's Chad and cheese in your pocket. Tech CC to (833) 799-0321. Good stuff.

Chad (9m 24s):

And we have a beer drop winner. Don't we?

Joel (9m 27s):

Hell yeah, we do!

Chad (9m 28s):

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Joel (9m 47s):

Yeah. If you get a, if you can find a drum roll soundbite, put it in here.

Chad (9m 51s):


Joel (9m 51s):

The winner this month is Bo Higgins! Is there a more Southern name than Bo Higgins? He's a veteran recruiter at Amazon, Virginia grad. So we're going to talk some military shit, some, you're going to vent about Amazon probably to him over our zoom, Zoom tasting.

Chad (10m 11s):

Oh yeah, no question.