I mean, could we really NOT do a 2020 Election episode?
Of course not, so we've invited infamous social media troll Ted Bauer - equal parts northeast liberal and Texas conservative - to the podcast. The guys talk about everything from what went array in 2016, to the top issues and differences of 2020 and, of course, predictions.
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Joel (1m 8s):
Election day podcasts. Remember the band Arcadia that was made up of like free Duran Duran members, hit song Election Day. Yeah. Yeah.
Chad (1m 18s):
I don't know. I don't quite remember that song probably, because it was shit.
Joel (1m 25s):
All the ladies love Duran Duran. And if you wanted to get in with the ladies, you needed to know a little bit of a Simon Labon.
Chad (1m 34s):
All right ladies and gentlemen, today, we are going to be talking about election stuff and we're just going to have a, just a pure discussion about some of the shit that's been going on. We brought Ted Bauer on today.
Joel (1m 45s):
Who is Ted Bauer?
Applause (1m 47s):
Clappping and cheering.
Chad (1m 48s):
He's one of the, and here's the reason why I wanted to have Ted on. Ted is one of those guys on social media that post memes for shock value, but instead of just yelling MAGA and running away and every response, he, he looks for a real interaction and Ted has a conversation around the stupidity that's actually happening. So I thought, we have a stupid show. Ted likes to talk about stupid shit. Let's get Ted on. Let's talk about the election, Ted, give us a little bit, little Twitter bio about you.
Joel (2m 20s):
Let's get stupid.
Ted Bauer (2m 22s):
Yes I am generally stupid, but I appreciate that intro because that is what I try to do. Like I think, especially in the last two to four years, we've had a lot of bullshit swirling around. So I try to like engage with both sides about it. Cause there is a validity to both sides, even if we don't always see it. But, and then just like generally from a vocational sense, I've write for people. So like ghost writing, freelance stuff, marketing.
Joel (2m 54s):
Are you the one writing all that direct mail that I'm getting right now? Are you the one behind that shit?
Ted Bauer (2m 58s):
I've only done one time. And I've been doing this shit like five years and I've only done a direct mail thing like once. So I've stayed out of that fray, which is cool.
Chad (3m 9s):
Let's get into the, into the soup here, kids. So first and foremost, Joel and myself and our wives spent 2016 together hoping that we were going to see a president Hillary Clinton, that never happened. And that night evolved into some shit. So the question is, how did we get here first off, Ted? How did, how did we get here? This is kind of like a quick post-mortem.
Ted Bauer (3m 38s):
Okay. Well, first of all, real quick, I don't know if you guys are familiar with Leon Bridges, the singer?
Joel (3m 44s):
Was he in Duran, Duran?
Ted Bauer (3m 47s):
I think he had a big song that was on that Big Little Lies, the HBO show. And he was on a Super Bowl commercial last year, but randomly I watched the 2016 election at the same bar as him. So that's my little like celebrity tie in. Like, I don't have a cool wife story about how that night devolved but wrong. I did watch it with a guy that has been on a Reese Weatherspoon HBO show, his music, at least.
Chad (4m 15s):
So when, while you were sitting there and then afterwards, right? I mean, what went wrong? If there were some things that you could boil it down to? Right. What went wrong?
Ted Bauer (4m 25s):
Okay. Well, it seems like the big ones are Hilary pulled out of upper Midwest too early. I feel like that was a big thing that didn't get covered as much, as it was happening, but kind of screwed her, cause it felt like it all came down to the upper Midwest. At the end of the day, I do feel like I was walking my dog the next morning. And I was like pulling up local media, YouTube videos from like Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, whatever. And you know, you have that whole JD Vance, like hillbilly LG narrative about like how the Midwest got gutted by like technology and all that shit. And I agree with that, to an extent that's a big, the media likes to bang that drum, but it is true.
Ted Bauer (5m 10s):
And I found like, I remember I was walking my dog, he was like taking a shit in this field. I used to live next to like a golf course. So I used to like in a show against the elites, I used to like, let him shit on the golf course sometimes. So I just remember I found this video from Ohio and this guy was like, you know, my, like my grandfather worked for Whirlpool for 25 years and my dad worked there for 35 years. And then I started there and then they outsourced 700 jobs. And like, Trump was only one talking about jobs.
Joel (5m 46s):
Hey, Ted, do you feel like, do you feel like the Hillary not going to the Midwest States, was that hubris or was it a strategic fart by the campaign?
Ted Bauer (5m 56s):
I think it's a mix of both, man. I think she probably thought she had those tied up because they're not that they all have been solidly blue, but maybe she was seeing numbers that she had them tied up. But I, I think it's partially strategic fart too. So that would be the big chunk. I do think, like I don't buy the toll Trump fake news thing, but yeah, there was that huge Biden, Hillary, Obama rally in Philadelphia, like by the Liberty Bell and it had a bunch of people and that was all that got covered. But Trump that night had like a 30,000 person rally in Michigan and then obviously like only Fox news covered it.
Ted Bauer (6m 41s):
Right. So that I don't buy his fake news shit that much. But that was something that even like a week after I was like, huh, like I don't watch Fox news. I had no idea that he had 30K people added like an assembly plant in Michigan the night before this election. Right.
Joel (7m 2s):
Sure. How much does, did Comey's investigation affect the election if at all?
Ted Bauer (7m 7s):
I think it played in, but I do think like sometimes people that are more educated and like close to a lead or whatever who like follow the news and subscribe to newsletters and watch cable and shit. I feel like they know about that stuff and care about it more than an average voter. Like I kind of feel the same way about Russia. Like we made a big deal on Russia and I do think they did something, but if really all they did was like buy Facebook ads. I don't know how much that shifted the electorate.
Chad (7m 41s):
Have you watched the Social Dilemma?
Ted Bauer (7m 43s):
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Chad (7m 45s):
So there's, there's a little bit of that in there. So, Joel, what are your thoughts?
Joel (7m 49s):
I feel like there was a lot of hubris, not just by the Hillary folks, but just by the country. You know, Obama was a very sort of calming candidate and president and we had eight years of sort of just nice, presidential behavior. Clearly we know now that there was a huge segment of the population that felt left behind by that whole period. But I think that a lot of people who would normally be energized and engaged on the blue side of the political spectrum were sort of lulled into believing that no way could a Trump presidency happen. I think that's changed now. And we'll talk a little bit about how what's different in 2020, but I think there was, there was definitely a lull of like, this could never happen.