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The hottest podcast in Human Resources, Talent Acquisition, and Talent Management.



Recruit Holdings' "Alleged" Cartel
The Chad & Cheese Podcast: AI Blunders & Cartel Raids - HR’s most dangerous pod tackles corporate chaos:
AI Runaway: Amazon burns $1.8M on a broken bot. Staffing Cartel: Recruit & top agencies face Japan's antitrust raid over a $1B+ wage scheme.
"Recruit should sponsor a Japanese version of Orange is the New Black." Tipping Bans: $40/hr fixed wages beat tip shame.
Chad Sowash
Aug 28


SignalLabs + BrassRing = Signals of Attention
Chad and Joel sit down with Signal Labs CEO Raj Ronanki to figure out why a shiny new AI startup just bought Brass Ring a 25-year-old HR tech dinosaur. Between Star Trek references, "systems of attention" buzzwords, and a vision of hiring AI bots alongside humans, Raj attempts to explain how an ancient software relic is somehow the key to the future of work.
Chad Sowash
Aug 24


Walmart Slumps, Workday Jumps, and Indeed Marketing Chumps
The boys dissect HR tech's dumpster fire: Workday’s scary private equity buyout, Google’s AI throwing top candidates into the trash, and Walmart employees babysitting task-lists that put frozen peas in carts first. "AI is like a puppy. It's gonna piss on the floor... and the puppy's still pissing on the couch." – Joel Cheesman. Plus, Indeed targets sports fans because Google search traffic died.
Chad Sowash
Aug 21


When AI Needs Humans with Sonja Breuer
Can AI make hiring more human? In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Sonja Breuer (SVP of HR at Hamra Enterprises). Sonja reveals how conversational AI cut their hiring time from 13 days to 4 across 200+ Wendy’s, Panera, and Noodles & Company locations, slashed job ad spending, reduced ghosting, and freed up managers.
Chad Sowash
Aug 18


ZipRecruiter Financial Gymnastics
Catch the latest on the Chad and Cheese podcast! Chad shares a hilarious beach fail, while Emi explores how GLP-1 weight loss drugs impact workplace "skinny privilege". The hosts break down Q2 earnings for Indeed and ZipRecruiter, debate MetaView's acquisition of Revel in Buy or Sell, examine AI assessment audits with the Job Doctor, and discuss the nostalgic comeback of MySpace.
Chad Sowash
Aug 14


Ageism, Algo-Bias, and Corp Naughtiness w/ Cassell Kaye
HR’s most dangerous duo, Joel and Chad, welcome 20-year corporate vet Cassell K (Amazon, Disney) to expose workplace ugly truths. They tackle the 2-million "ghost job" gap, systemic ageism pushing 50+ workers out, and why clicking "opt out" on AI hiring algorithms is resume suicide. Tune in before an ATS filters this episode out!
Chad Sowash
Aug 11


Indeed Pauses, Fiverr Falls & Rippling Ransacks
The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast with Emi and Lieven is officially live, and it is a certified must-watch. In this episode, the crew dives straight into a massive legal showdown brewing in the tech world.
Joel Cheesman
Aug 7


90 Days Hired, They Stay a Year w/ Jolene Hostal
HR Director Jolene Hostal joins Chad & Cheese to reveal how Stanley Steemer recruits 2,500+ workers yearly. Using Paradox’s chatbot "Maria," applicants apply in under 90 seconds. With Dayforce integration and in-van tablets for field tech support, she highlights the 90-day retention milestone and why 73% of managers started on the trucks. Plus, a surprise delivery of custom swag!
Chad Sowash
Aug 4
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