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Joel (00:45.036) And on this episode, Rippling unleashes the snake. Is ERE adapting or dying? So anyway, rippling and deal. Yes. This is where the heat is. so, next up a news. The list is rippling in deal. That's the list. Joel (27:25.198) get a demo of our product, Sea Rippling in action. And the estimate for Rippling is 350 ARR.

The duo dives deep into Rippling’s bold Super Bowl debut featuring Tim Robinson, debating whether the Speaking of Super Bowl, Rippling is dropping their first Super Bowl ad on Sunday. Let's take a look  at that new ad from Rippling. Rippling. So I like it. I think it's clever. But so far, guess we're both going to sign off on the Rippling Super Bowl ad. All right.

Runlayer claims Rippling misused its software after licensing licensing it and is seeking to block Rippling Rippling, of course, denies the allegations. But okay, so we you mentioned like Rippling versus Run Layer, you know, and Rippling did they steal, So that's my take on the run layout versus Rippling. And Rippling's gonna walk away with the technology.

Bitter rivals Deal and Rippling are embroiled in a legal spat. Rippling sued Deal on March 17th, also St. Patrick's Day. . $13.5 billion at Rippling, $12 billion billion at Deal. Head count, you've got 5,000 employees at Deal, 3,000 at Rippling. Now, Rippling again, Joel (30:27.342) Sure. Shady.

The ripple effects are real, and that's what I think we need to really focus on. So yeah, this is all, I mean, literally ripple effects. Joel (06:08.975) Mm-hmm. Fuck Rippling. We're on your team. They dropped $3 billion on deal. We can't get beat by Rippling. The ripple effect and the domino effect of all of these decisions.

We're diving headfirst into the espionage-soaked saga between Rippling and Deel — corporate sabotage, Chad (18:48.944) Whoo, so have you heard about this whole thing with Rippling and Deal? Chad (23:42.765) in Oh my God, dude, we're talking about rippling needing cash. Chad (24:37.591) wondering why Rippling needs more cash and remembering Rippling obviously wasn't on In my honest opinion, I would get away from anything that was Rippling or deal at this point. J.T.

Anyway, LinkedIn is apparently launching new A.I. features for job seekers and Rippling is getting into Joel: Let's talk about some new tech company called Rippling is getting into the ATS game. The company has launched Rippling Recruiting. Chad, what's your take on Rippling getting into the ATS game? Chad: Well, I'm a big fan of a company keeping it simple, and Rippling Recruiting says what it is.

Joel: Anyway, Ripple is not the block chain cryptocurrency. What Ripple is essentially selling itself as a mobile first LinkedIn. This is not new. Whenever I hear the world Ripple, I always think of Sanford and Son and the wine that they drank. Joel: Give me my Ripple. #Indeed #LinkedIn #Ripple #AI #Robots #Diversity #Facebook

This week's show highlights the trending conflicts between Google against OpenAI, Deel against Rippling [laughter] The information highlighted a growing rivalry between Deel and Rippling. looking at things like either news stories or maybe insights on LinkedIn in terms of headcount, Deel, Rippling The information also highlights the impending rivalry between Rippling and Deel.

Rippling slimes us, Ghostbusters-style. The boys play a little Buy-or-Sell with Rain and RiseKit. Indeed gets a haircut, and today's cocktails are generously donated by our friends at Rippling. Joel: Alright, let's talk about Rippling. Chad: Do we have to? Joel: More SVB drama. Rippling has raised $500 million. Chad: Fuck. Joel: Valuing the company... Chad, Rippling, go.

Deel, Rippling and iCIMS are raising money, enjoying some rare, unicorn air and in the news this week Joel (44s): And on this week's episode, Rippling says it's kind of a big deal. San Fran based Rippling has raised $250 million valuing the company at $11.25 billion. I do think there is a large anti Workday story here with the rise of Rippling. This might be driving a lot of people over to Rippling.

here we go: This week, the boys cover news out of Indeed and Glassdoor, as well as funding rounds for Rippling Joel (22m 17s): All right, next up, we have Rippling Chad (22m 21s): Rippling Joel (22m 22s): Not ripple Anyway, Rippling has an employee first approach, Chad, what's that all about? Because there probably aren't many companies out there that would want, or like to acquire a Rippling And I think we'll be talking about Rippling in a few years as another train wreck.

Rippling sued Deel on March 17th, also St. "Uh, Rippling Slack logs show that O'Brien began... It in Rippling saying this is a misdirection. And Rippling's just saying this is a misdirection. With Rippling.

So before 2025 deal was apparently a rippling customer that got divorced thanks to being too much like A deal said it was quote, rippling aligned because the plaintiff's lawyer was a rippling investor. Rippling Sue's deal for orchestrating espionage by enlisting a spy. O'Brien avoided jail time, his charges and financial ruin emerging as Rippling's protected insider. He's Rippling's protected inside.

.”   🕵️‍♀️ Meanwhile, Deel and Rippling are still engaged in a tech bro slap fight that includes fake The dramedy continues as Deal, our friends Deal and Rippling. Chad (41:48.467) Earlier this year, Rippling accused Deal of enlisting a Rippling employee as a spy who who worked for Rippling and then to counter Deal accuses Rippling of dealing with Russian companies Chad (45:01.291) quote, specifically deal alleges that one of Rippling's employees who holds the job

Then you have the other threat. of EOR companies like Rippling and Deal who are poised to transition Rippling lawsuit, factorial aims to grow. Chad (42:49.557) Ahem. Chad (43:10.07) Mm-hmm. Chad (44:09.535) the rippling deal drama too much for the market. Joel (45:33.336) rippling drama creates an opportunity for them, but I'm not sure they even need it. Joel (46:31.95) I mean, dealer rippling could be like, if rippling goes public, get some cash, they could

We talk about deal, rippling, up work. I mean, all of these companies, right? Joel Cheesman (43:11.1) with the Rippling case. just another court case that Deal has to deal with. Rippling CEO, Parker Conrad, our favorite, he's on Twitter. He tweeted, quote, this litigation has nothing to do with Rippling. I can't wait for the rippling deal case to go to court and that's just going to be fucking circus.

Yes, Deel paid a payroll guy to snoop on Rippling … (Spoiler alert: he wasn’t exactly 007) Meanwhile, Maureen Wiley Clough (13:23.106) deal versus rippling spy drama video that just killed me. Chad (21:32.732) intention to leave Rippling to focus on consulting. He wanted to leave Rippling, right? And like you just pointed out Chad, like the ripple effects, they go on forever to infinity.

Joel (35m 31s): And speaking of going to work, Ripple Match is in the news. I don't know if I like that name or do you like Ripple Match? Chris (35m 40s): I dunno. Ripple Match? Ripple is a cheap drink. Chris (35m 46s): Real match. I'm thinking a real match. So Ripple Match. Okay. Chris, if we were playing buy or sell, would you buy or sell Ripple Match?

Joel Cheesman (08:47.446) I'll go ahead go first guys. talked about the Rippling. Well, we talk about Rippling and Deal all the time. Rippling, recent Super Bowl ad. So anyway, Deal, not to be outdone by Rippling as always, has launched an ad campaign called Dreaming Do you think the the rippling ad is worse or the deal ad is worse? I don't know if we talked about that or not, but anyway, yeah, I'm gonna go Rippling.

Less so enthusiastic is Ripple Match, who also just raised a bunch of cash to help college kids get jobs RippleMatch. Watch out handshake the Ripple is in the house. Chad, your thoughts, Chad (19m 47s): The ripple, give me some ripple and put some champagne in it Joel RippleMatch. No, no, not having it. Chad (23m 19s): And you're calling me salty?

Rippling’s Parker Conrad may need a cold shower—things are heating up faster than expected. I mean, they are beating the shit out of Rippling, a company that has taken monumentally more funding Who, who I predicted, this was one of my predictions for 25 is that, is that rippling would go IPO. We're going to file sooner than we thought and freak Parker Conrad and the Rippling kids out because So part of me thinks Deel 's fucking around with Rippling and saying 26 when they really mean 25.

And I was shocked to find out that our industry is represented on Cal-She, Deal and Rippling specifically Rippling is down, down a ways at a 17 % chance. Rippling or a deal right now is a 44 % chance. The other one is will Rippling win its lawsuit against deal? Joel Cheesman (08:11.573) their lawsuit against the shit show that is the lawsuit with Rippling.

I really enjoyed looking at I wanna say Ripple back in the day. Chad: RippleMatch. Liz Owens: Not RippleMatch. Chad: Or just Ripple? Okay. Liz Owens: Ripple. I'm forgetting, but...

buttercup—it’s a bumpy ride through HR hell and economic WTFs on this week’s Chad & Cheese: Spy Games Update:  Rippling You've got Rippling versus Deal. You've got Diddy. You got this guy. The corporate espionage conflict between HR tech giants, Rippling and Deal has intensified. I mean, if they've done this with Rippling, who's to say they haven't done this with others? Joel Cheesman (19:18.973) And Rippling clearly is.

🎙️ On This Week's Show: Stepstone Gives Detmers "Das Boot" JobGet Ripples a Match The Ruse of Job.com JobGet ripples a match. The market has already voted. Apparently, we know about that. Chad Sowash (16:41.365) Ripple match. from the press release quote the acquisition combines JobGets 100 million plus candidate network with Ripple Much like the Snaga job acquisition, Ripple Match just consolidates those portfolios and brands into

Rippling. Phantom. Foley. DoorDash. Lyft. back so outbound sourcing can actually happen again.ch ad Speakers: Jay Patel — Sr Director Talent, Rippling Little company called Rippling. Maybe you've heard of them. applications and a massive team. 0:25:47.7 Joel Cheesman: Sure. 0:25:53.1 Vijay Mani: So and now he's over at Rippling

What about Rippling, Deal, Upwork, and the other EOR companies? If rippling deal or somebody goes public and goes bonkers, you're going to see eightfold. And while they've sucked, they've gotten to see new players, new sexy companies like Dippling, Rippling And then they go public and that may be spurred partly when rippling and deal and all those guys start

From where I sit, there are some well -funded, well -resourced competitors, Rippling, Bamboo, High Bob So when you look at, you mentioned Rippling. Rippling is built primarily for payroll.

So it's somewhat of a ripple effect, but I think the conversation needs to start there. happen, the voting block of abortion rights activist that came out to maybe create that wave and into a ripple Again, ripple effect. these employees start to push their employers, it's going to again, for lack of a better word, be a ripple

My first prediction for 2025, Rippling goes IPO. So the battle between Rippling and Deel finally comes to a head in 2025 with Rippling jumping into the I think Rippling has less runway to do that. So prediction number one, Rippling goes IPO and I'm excited to see a company well-known in our space

Neil (23m 12s): And that's, I wrote a blog just this week, actually about ripples and, and how organizations , whether it's a global organization, those ripples reaching effectively around the world, or actually just those ripples reaching people's individual houses and flats is another thing. So if you're not getting those ripples as magic ripples of communication out to your folk, whether it's

and really starting to, you know, take, maybe take some of the, not just the ADP revenues, but the Ripplings I mean, Rippling not one of those. They're pretty new, but there's great opportunity. Joel: Yeah. You mentioned Rippling. Joel: Rippling may be the closest to it, but, it's just an impressive onslaught of deals and growth that

Chad (38:28.063) Yeah, I think what we've seen with Deal, Rippling and the other EOR organizations, and that was one of the things that we said with Deal and Rippling and Atlas and some of the bigger EOR So they're literally just going backwards where Rippling and Deal, they focused on down funnel stuff

know what they're doing, not to be, not to be nationalistic, but, for that, to me, it's like deal and rippling Like everyone that has sort of come in as as a wannabe deal, rippling, solution and, Personia was one of them. think them leaving the U S is a big vote of confidence for deal and rippling. all the others

Chad: Zelt is what I like to call rippling light. Why light you might ask. Well, rippling has taken 1.2 BABABA billion USD in funding and Zelt has taken 3.1 million euros. Old and slow HRIS platforms will think twice about shelling out that high valuation bank to acquiring rippling Nipol sounds like nipple, maybe Lieven can, can Wax poetic about that issue. Lieven: Even though it sounds like nipple huh?

But what concerns me and what should concern Americans is the ripple effect of this. Like the ripple effect of this is so much bigger than just people like me who manufacture in China.

They also touch on the news of Rippling's potential $13 billion valuation, the rebranding of Broadbean Rippling, uh, deals favorite, uh, competitors and talks to raise it a $13 billion valuation.

There was a rippling ad? I didn't even see it. Wow. The one that got me was the ring ad. No one's talking about the rippling ad by the way. Like no one's top lists. Yeah. I think this could be a really, really big consumer play in America and have ripple effects all over

You mentioned Personio, but they have competition from Bamboo, Rippling, ADP, and a whole bunch of others It's just like the CEO from Rippling. He crashed his last company, right? Stupidity. Our own industry has Rippling, like you mentioned, but also Jason Goldberg.

Your first was rippling IPOs. Lieven (33:05.633) Yeah! Lieven (33:11.544) Hey. Joel Cheesman (33:26.271) I, not a prediction, not an official, but I think rippling or deal this year Joel Cheesman (33:55.953) about rippling in 2025.

And the funny part is Joel, actually, they're like top two clients are Deal and Rippling. And they asked, they're like, hey, can we get Deal and Rippling on stage? I'm like, I don't mind.

Remember when SBF happened in Rippling had to take another 500 million just to ensure they could cover Viacurrent is no rippling and I am never a fan of payday loans.

Who's gonna do it first, Rippling or Deel? Joel Cheesman (38:27.158) Yeah. I would say rippling has a better chance of, of doing the IPO thing in the next 12 months than Deel. And then you'd finally see a nipple. Yes. That was porn without porn.

And in fact, today, Rippling came out and said that they have cut ways with any prop trading companies Joel: Rippling said, "Hey, we're gonna do it. So are you gonna do it?"

There was a group of companies around COVID deal, rippling velocity global, which is now pebble oyster And I think we're getting our Coke and Pepsi. think our Coke and Pepsi are rippling and deal.

So it's gonna have quite a rippling effect. So yeah, he could create ripple effect if he shows really positive results in the action he takes.

We have unicorns in our space like Deal, Rippling, et cetera. Will it be a mix of all those?

, I don't know if you played the Cal she market, uh, game JT or not, but so Cal she has the odds of rippling their site, they, they proudly showed the logos and who's using them. lot of people in our space, the rippling

Did you see that Rippling is now pressing Revolut to find out who paid money to Deal's alleged spy, O'Brien So Rippling is now suing Revolut to get the full name and address of the Alba Basha. That's right.