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The hottest podcast in Human Resources, Talent Acquisition, and Talent Management.



20 Recruiters Making 150,000 Hires with Shay Johnson
How do 20 recruiters handle 150,000 hires and 7 million applicants? Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman chat with Shay Johnson, VP of HR Partnerships at Compass Group, about scaling high-volume hiring. Discover how AI interviewing agents, Paradox, and JobSync eliminate repetitive admin work to help recruiters focus on high-value human connections.
Chad Sowash
Sep 29


Live! RecFest USA 2026
Chad, Joel, Mo’, and J.T. cover the conference from the Shaker booth, the iced-latte interview debate, the Joonko founder’s guilty plea and $27M investor scam, Harver’s Symphony Talent deal, Findem’s new Studio product, and ZoomInfo’s Talent Autopilot.
Joel Cheesman
Sep 25


Candidate Fraud Stops Here with Etan Bernstein
Recruiters are drowning in 11,000 AI applications a minute, while rampant resume fraud and North Korean bots choke the system. On HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheeseman chat with Etan Bernstein (Velocity Network) about fighting AI fraud with verifiable data, fixing broken vendor models, and surviving this hiring dumpster fire before bots take over.
Chad Sowash
Sep 22


LinkedIn Goes Loco!
In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and J.T. O'Donnell unpack news across the global hiring landscape, focused on Meta, LinkedIn, Bernie Sanders, Who'd Ya' Rather and more.
Joel Cheesman
Sep 18


How AI is Reshaping the Workplace with Paul Roetzer
Is your team drowning in AI hype while facing workforce distrust? On *The Chad & Cheese Podcast*, SmarterX CEO Paul Roetzer breaks down the real-world impact of AI on leadership and talent. Discover how to move past total automation to keep "humans in the lead," use custom AI as an executive thought partner, and guide your workforce into the future of work. Tune in to transform the noise into strategy!
Chad Sowash
Sep 15


Jobs Utopia or Fiasco?
Joel, Chad, and Emi tackle HR tech, labor, and pop culture. They discuss Steve Ballmer and fantasy draft grades, Sonic Jobs and Hackajob's AI wins, H-1B visa brain drain, the reality behind US jobs report numbers, Uber’s €825M automated fine, and the shuttering of Guardian Jobs.
Chad Sowash
Sep 11


Real Girls, Real AI & Real Talk with Lauren B. Jones
Lauren B. Jones joins the show to talk Real Girls Roadmap to Mastering AI, corporate tech blunders, and her 4:30 AM rooster. Why are 85% of recruiting firms failing at AI ROI? Simple: leaders are lazy and feeding the machine "hot garbage". From fixing 3-hour resume reformatting to writing Taco Bell agents, Lauren breaks down how to stop the slop and actually use smart tech.
Chad Sowash
Sep 8


HiBob Beast Mode & DOL Dismantles Worker Protections
On this episode of the Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad and Joel dive into the latest HR tech news. They dissect Salesforce's $166M investment in HiBob, Bill Gates' AI displacement warnings, and earnings beats from Workday that debunk the "SaaSpocalypse". Plus, they critique OFCCP deregulation and a startup's bizarre stunt offering interviews for tattoos.
Chad Sowash
Sep 4


AI Slop, Supply & the Search Process: Ben Zweig Breaks Down the Data
Is AI coming for your job, or are we just overreacting while spamming recruiters with bot resumes? On **The Chad & Cheese Podcast**, Ben Zweig (CEO of Revelio Labs) joins Chad & Joel to break down the AI labor market. Discover why CS majors are panicking, why top AI adopters are increasing headcount by 27%, and how jobs aren't dying they're just morphing from within. Listen in!
Chad Sowash
Sep 1
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