CareerBuilder Misdirection

A hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck might best describe this week. The boys unleash on everyone from:

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INTRO (14s):

Hide your kids! Lock the doors! You're listening to HR’s most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheeseman are here to punch the recruiting industry, right where it hurts! Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark, buckle up boys and girls, it's time for the Chad and Cheese podcast.

Joel (21s):

We're a hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck. Welcome to the Chad and Cheese podcast. I'm your cohost Joel "$750" Cheesman. And I'm Chad "I'm never watching another debate in my life" Sowash.

Chad (56s):

Yeah, you are. And on this week's show, LinkedIn has stories, Indeed flexes, Career Builder wipes away a text kernel, and ISIM's gets a fresh coat of paint. It's October and this election has me scared as hell. We'll be right back after we stand down and ... Man just shut up.

Sovren (1m 22s):

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Joel (1m 28s):

🎵 It's the end of the world as we know it 🎵 Dude, I'm sick and tired of being locked down. The Titans and Steelers game is postponed because of COVID. Indians eliminated sweat by the Yankees. Baseball doesn't exist right now. The debate, were not a debate, fucking Trump.

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Chad (1m 47s):

But, kids, kids, there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

Joel (1m 47s):


Chad (1m 48s):

The Chad and Cheese. What? That's the Chad and Cheese are bringing the season of giving early.

Joel (1m 56s):

Tell me more.

Chad (2m 24s):

Yes. This this thing we're calling a beer drop, where you find listener, you find listener and come to We're going to have a bunch of other things too, and you can register to get beer sent to your front door. One lucky listener, one winner per month. We are going to curate. We're going to think about this. We're going to taste and we're going to send you the best beer! And where, where do I go to do that? that's

Joel (2m 45s):

We gotta fine October Fest with someone's name on it for this month. We're going to go October Fest, seasonable. So exciting. So exciting. And guess what! What? T-shirts are in! That's right kids!

Chad (2m 59s):

That's right, Version 2.0 of the Chad and Cheese t-shirt yes. Well answered by our buddies at Emissary are in. So yes, if you want beer and a chance, a free tee shirt head on out to We're givers. Joel, we are givers We're givers. And that being said, Shout Outs. Shout Outs.

Chad (3m 30s):

So Jackye Clayton, you know her from Hiring Solved. Remember she got, her and Jeremy both unfortunately were downsized, but Jackie is now DEI strategist over at Seek Out Anoop, our buddy, Anoop he knows good people when he sees them now Hiring Solved alum, Jeremy Roberts, Jeremy Roberts. Jackie Clayton are reunited. And it sounds like a coup. And knowing Jeremy, he's getting a referral bonus, a finder's fee and probably a steak dinner for getting Jackie in the door there. Feels so that's good.

Joel (3m 52s):

Good things happen to good people and dammit, Jackie and Jeremy, you go.

Chad (4m 19s):

More of a SmackDown than a Shout Out. Last year, Wells Fargo's 2019 income was near $20 billion. And back then the CEO and President Charles Scharf said, I quote, "Wells Fargo is a wonderful and important franchise that has made some serious mistakes. And my mandate," this is Charles "is to make the fundamental changes necessary to regain the full trust and respect of all stakeholders. Then ... Em, hummm...

Chad (4m 51s):

Sharp's dumb ass drops a memo with it that actually says quote, "while it might sound like an excuse..." It does Charles, "the unfortunate reality is that there is a very limited pool of black talent to recruit from," end quote. I'm going to go back to that $20 billion in income, and you want talent to just fucking appear. You want government to provide you with the program and welfare, governmental welfare to fill your talent gap? And my message to Wells Fargo is fuck you. This is ridiculous.

Joel (5m 37s):

I'm going to do a one 80 and give a Shout Out to the new Borat movie that's coming. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's the end of 2020 with Borat. Yeah, it looks like it's going to be an Amazon Prime exclusive coming out pretty soon. But yeah, if you, if you remember the 2006 film, you knew that 2020 would be a perfect time for a new Borat, and God damn, it's coming, new Borat on Amazon. Very nice. Gotta be stoke.

Chad (5m 39s):

A big Shout Out to James Boettcher. You might remember him as the Head of Righteous Gelato.

Joel (5m 39s):

Boettcher , I hardly know her.

Chad (6m 12s):

I love his gelato. You remember this guy, right? I mean the Righteous Gelato was listed in the top 400 fastest growing companies in Canada for the second year in a row. And they are coming South baby. That's right. As soon as they lift the COVID border issues, I guarantee you we're going to have some righteous shit down here in the U.S.

Joel (6m 23s):

Very nice, very nice. Say a Shout Out to Adam Chambers. Our favorite, our favorite leprechaun actually, can you call Irish leprechauns? Is that racist?

Chad (6m 22s):

I don't know. Good question.

Joel (6m 54s):

Adam Chambers. God bless him on LinkedIn. The dude has no filter, announced that he had quote an actual, real legitimate client. Finally. So Adam, thank God for you and your transparency. Good luck with that new client. Hopefully you can get some more new clients or real clients there in Ireland. Cause apparently if you don't have Irish customers, it's hard to get Irish customers, go figure.

Chad (7m 5s):

Shout Out to Dev Skiller, lists babies lists that way. That's right. Dev Skiller's, International Podcast Day list, only listed four podcasts, and one of those podcasts was the Chad and Cheese podcast.

Joel (7m 10s):

Oh, stop. We were in the final four?

Chad (7m 29s):

Yeah. In the final four. Jason Banks who we might've known a few weeks ago, actually he made a list. He was teasing us cause he knows we're suckers for lists. And he said that he's thinking about creating a top Chad and Cheese podcast list. We could call it a playlist, maybe. Of our podcasts? Yeah! Wow. That's a lot of podcasts to go through, dude needs a life, if he's going to go through our shit. 550 plus podcast guys. Oh, Chad knows everybody. Chad knows.

Joel (7m 57s):

Shout Out to Joanne Lockwood, friend of the show and a good, just a good, good person. She wrote an article on this Scotland Herald, which I'm sure is a legitimate publication. In Scotland. About how meritocracy needs to be busted. If you haven't checked that out, go search Google for Joann Lockwood, Scotland Harold meritocracy, or any combination of those words. You'll probably find it big shout out to her good people.

Chad (8m 37s):

That's right jim Stroud, read it. Understand it. A big Shout Out to Matt Baxter. Remember the CEO of of Wedgie or wedgie wedgie. Yeah, that's right. He interviewed me on his podcast. Everybody has a fucking podcast. These days, episode dropped this week and they just received a million dollars in funding. So who knows Matt might be bringing Wedgie to Firing Squad.

Joel (8m 37s):

Did you get a metaphorical wedgie on the show? Did he?

Chad (8m 44s):

Who wouldn't?

Joel (8m 54s):

Funny story, offline, I'll tell you about wedgies. Okay. So a Shout Out to Sebastian Domingez. Is there a cooler name than Sebastian Dominguez?

Chad (8m 56s):

Sounds like a Disney character. Something like a Prince. I don't know. Beauty and the Beast.

Joel (9m 16s):, another friend of the show, their new VP of sales, who they got from Indeed. So wow, good on you, poaching from Indeed for your VP of sales. It's nice work. formerly Neuvoo.

Chad (9m 52s):

Shout Out to Talent Talks. So a Joveo has this video series called Talent Talks, which the host is Jen Terry Tharp. We know her, she's been on the podcast. She'd spent 20 plus years over at AT&T. She knows her shit, and for some reason she had me on. We actually recorded two episodes because we were drinking and we went over time. And so we did two episodes instead, but those are going to be coming out in the next a week or so look at the socials. I don't know. Maybe if you're using Chad and Cheese in your pocket, we might actually send them there.

Joel (9m 52s):

Go another event with a friend of the show, the global HR tech virtual symposium. Yes. That's a mouthful. October 6th, Jobvite will be presenting information about, you know, really intelligent stuff. October says global HR tech virtual symposium. They need a new branding campaign, which we'll be talking about those later in the show.

Chad (10m 15s):

Yeah, maybe just a copywriter, big shout out to Madison Butler. We dropped a podcast this week called stop hiring racists. She has been the target of some crazy shit because she's a black woman speaking her mind and some people just don't like that. But dude, you know, that whack Trumper chick who did like a 35 minute video calling her out as like a bully. Yup. Yup. She did a second one, a second 35 minutes.

Joel (10m 46s):

Oh come on.

Chad (11m 5s):

Who has time for that shit, dude? As if we weren't jealous enough that somebody had a hater that would commit almost an hour of trashing them.

Joel (10m 58s):