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I am in Sweden, actually, I'm at the Workday Rising Conference, which is in Stockholm this week. That would make a lot of sense for rather than go to compete with Workday and SAP and, and others.

But on the sweet side, when we look at the big players, like I call the big three what's your Workday

I absolutely loved turning up at events, like the evening events in particular, like the workday parties also launching high volume solutions built to work alongside enterprise ERP and HCM platforms like Workday

So, we know huge business systems like an SAP or a Workday or UKG or whatever it is, right?

Paradox, friend of the show, went on to win big deals, receive over $250 million in funding, and sell to Workday I mean, look, the humanly, we like those guys, but this is not, it's not workday buying, you know, sauna

I will say it's going to be Workday. Tim: So Workday has their whole investment thing where they throw Workday says, "Hey, here's 5 million, can you actually hire someone that knows how to market?"

It's Workday Rising, Work Human, Oracle World, stuff like that, marketing their normal.

We see the big three in HCM with SAP, Oracle, Workday, and there's a couple of those that are like, hey

Well they've partnered with IBM to streamline integrations for vendors into platforms such as Workday , startups, et cetera, can build once on ThisWay Global and plug right into multiple platforms like Workday

But usually what happens is we're working with really big companies who have a legacy system, like a Workday So into all the, at least the main ones that I know of, like Workday and Success Factors, Page Up and

know where Chad is today, but, in April, he and I will be heading to Phoenix for the, paradox slash workday Workday is one of the more big companies that have done it. It never really works out.

That’s why we highlight companies like Plum.io, Workpay, LaborWorx and HireLogic, who’ve gotten funding [music] Joel: Kenyan-based HR payroll startup Workpay which by the way in autocorrect becomes Workday Workpay offers tools that allow employers to pay salaries in local currencies across Africa, file taxes Africa's Workpay Chad, are a buy or sell? Chad: One word here, opportunity. But that's not what we're talking about, we're talking about Workpay.

I was stuck in a couple of Workday houses. So when you're with Workday- Chad: Stuck. encompassing solution, like your ATS is the one with the least amount of money behind it and therefore I used Workday And then Workday started giving out money to the phenoms and to places that would help bridge the gap

I mean obviously Workday's thrown a product out there. We're not so sure they're getting it right. When Workday built a basic ATS and threw it in their bag. If I don't value recruitment we might take the throw in that our CTO has negotiated in the workday contract

SAP has their skills thing, Workday has their skills thing, and customers are saying, yeah, let me go

but it's rudimentary, our UI might have to change for that specific customer, but Lever, Greenhouse, Workday Joel (16m 49s): You integrated currently with those four Smart Recruiters Workday, iCIMS or, I mean,

, two, three o'clock in the afternoon because the audience, the employees, they love that a typical workday But to let them to interrupt a typical workday where they might be bored out of their mind, that works

Neither does Workday. Neither does SAP. Chad (12m 22s): Yeah. Jeff (12m 22s): Neither does Oracle. But the odds of somebody that is doing 4 million in revenue to have a company like a ADP or Workday or

Everything is based on the 20th century eight to five workday model.

So we do have automations and everything, integrations with ATSs, but partnering with a Workday or Oracle

Greenhouse, they play more of like Switzerland when it comes to those partner ecosystems, unlike say a Workday

It was like, dude, it already has. mean, literally that week there was a massive layoff at Workday because

Chad: Do we really see a workday, like coming out, cutting edge?

everything from onboarding to remote training, to performance support, for instance, they integrate with Workday All these companies are integrating their shit with Salesforce, with Slack, with Workday, and to be able

23.02) more enact Joel Cheesman (33:48.216) impacting HR's talent strategies and exacerbating infinite workday

So I mean and that's hard then you've got workday who's now in court because they're discriminating because

Workday sucks. We all know, right?

But you look at Firstbird that was acquired recently, Teamable, WorkTaps, which I got from Google I actually If you're Workday, it's like, here's the RAS report we need, and like they're, okay we already did that

I know Workday has some money, I believe, into Beamery, but Workday doesn't have the services that a

And I mean, it doesn't sound really you need to get into integrations with ADP SAP Workday...

And, uh, Workday is my competition." 0:02:10.1 Chad Sowash: True. 0:02:10.9 Rebecca Carr: Umm, because

So looking forward to seeing them Joel (4m 47s): Very nice shout out to Pando and Workday who were Cody Their HR analytics platform can collect data from more than 100 sources, such as Workday and deliver

If the recruiters live in Workday, then you know, let them, let them continue to work in Workday.

Like doing the work, but it cannot do more than I would normally do in a day's kind of a normal workday

No mention of integrations to workday, SAP, ISIMS.

(38m 2s): They need to, they need a marketing campaign to get people thinking of them as, you know, Workday Joel (39m 24s): I Sims is more in that Workday bubble then ZipRecruiter is like Post Jobs.

Achu Ravi: Yeah, we integrate with roughly around 12 different ATSs, Workday and Workable.

say like, Veritone is right there with Paradox and whatever Indeed is doing at the time, and whatever Workday

, yeah. then we have our the future of front line frontline summit in Vegas. that's a paradox slash workday

There's another lawsuit against Workday right now for something called Higher Score, which I believe

So we already have enough companies who have to use Workday. They're forced to use Workday because it's their ERP, right? It's their downstream system.

They need to, they need a marketing campaign to get people thinking of them as, you know, Workday or Joel (26m 20s): Yeah. iCIMS is more in that Workday bubble then ZipRecruiter is like post jobs.

Joel: The CEO from Workday was quoted as saying, this is going to be a tremendous amount of work, a cost

We got some inside scoop on some of their love for Workday, and they're not so much love for somebody Yes, there is consulting on the Workday side.

Workday has been able to kind of avoid this.

the product, hype it up, do some interviews, trying to put your brand in the same conversation as the Workday

gonna get recruiters using their own database within Candidate.ID, where they don't do it from Taleo or Workday

We're probably not going to be partnering with Workday tomorrow or iCIMS and some of these large mega

I mean, a workday. Yeah, I don't know. But people are going to take these pieces off the board.

Let's say for instance, like a Mowgli versus Workday. Joel Cheesman (41:19.872) Mm-hmm.