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And on the other half, we give them the opportunity to utilize artificial intelligence, to automate the On one hand there's the texting, as well as the other hand there's automation and conversational interfaces It's still more about the robotic process automation as you know, augmented with AI, right? We're using every single chatbot, every single workflow automation, is they're designed to do certain It's not just some abstract AI, it's the workflow automation augmented with conversational interfaces

They automate work, Workato, get a job. In addition to helping automate multiple segments of a business Workato promises, its HR automation tools Those two words, integration and automation, that is the future of just about every aspect of business For those who don't know Zenefits sold software, they still do, to automate health insurance, payroll We talked about Walmart last week, automating and becoming driverless.

The first one is go clean up all of our terrible processes, if you are not deploying automation right Yeah, go deploy some automation for those things.

, like in and out or hospital, like almost every business on the planet is thinking about how do we automate A huge, every sign that they hold up is fight automation, like fight the robots, like push back on automation And you guessed it automation. They want to automate as quickly as possible. The C-suite like being disgruntled. Maybe it is partly they want to get rid of people because they're getting rid of people anyway. with automation

AI, automation, the end of the world as we know it, basically. Chad: Jobs. , should be automated today. Not tomorrow, not in five years, today should be automated with the technology that's available. And a company was talking about automation and how it has helped them thus far. So once again, we talk about AI, automation, all the glitter and that other fun stuff.

In this conversation, Joel and Chad discuss various topics including the potential for LinkedIn to automate Automation, recruitment, and the future of work ... throw in a fat man in a red suit and you've got Christmas Joel: The power to automate commercials that are, that look great, that are AI produced. Joel: And automated LinkedIn can make a shit ton of money doing like rinse and repeating ads for jobs Technically Uber Eats are teaming up to launch automated Uber Eats in Waymo's Phoenix service area.

The tool is designed to automate some of the more time-consuming parts of the job creation process, freeing And that was marketing automation. Spent the next six years touring the world selling marketing automation to TA teams in our kilts. Paradox has launched its conversational ATS, which automates tasks such as screening for requirements So this is a smart move, although they need to go further down this automation rabbit hole.

And I have real questions thanks to AI automation and other things as to if it will come back to the The platform aims to automate. I'm sensing a theme out there about this whole automation co-pilot agentic thing. And these guys are on the copilot agentic automation wave, push a button, easy button. got your person The ones who we've talked to, who have implemented AI automation know what they're looking for.

Finally, the hosts look at the changing face of automation, analyzing how artificial intelligence is JT, your take on the Fortune article and the automation of call centers. Not so much. AI will continue to improve what it can do from an automation standpoint. We're not going to send you to an automated bot. Joel Cheesman (55:50.702) All right, JT, what are your thoughts on automated on-demand podcasts?

left holding the bag 📉 Dice layoffs  — Revenue tanks, execs cut staff while Wall Street cheers 🤖 Automation Chad, your thoughts on all the automation going on this week. So I'm all down for the automated car, like trend. That is really the call it the Holy grail of, of automation. I this is, I this was a good news week for automation. J.T.

I mean, obviously there are automated trucks happening now, right? But, I mean, recruiters... I mean, there's been definitely opportunities to incrementally introduce automation at certain parts of the process, and that's, I think, that's going to be the story of how automation enters all of our So, automation... Mason: You can't automate what hasn't been clearly articulated.

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with the ConveyIQ pivot and a message to recruiters – “Recruiters who don’t embrace marketing will be automated

Why “giving vendors your data” isn’t the magic fix they promise What HR leaders really  think about automation in the work that you do. 0:14:28.6 S1: This next one is called Domino's Human Touch versus Chatbot Automation Umm, I don't think that, like automating a notification that we're waiting on your background check invitation But like, it's very hard to discern that from automated screening. Talk about automation in your business. 0:16:47.8 S7: Sure. 0:16:48.4 S1: How many flippies have you

In case you missed it, automation, ranking candidates, DEI and managing applicants are all pretty popular So SmartRank is a next generation applicant screening and tracking software that completely automates So creating this automation doesn't replace their job, but it allows for them to spend time on better If you're thinking about automating it, you take your 250 applicants, these are the seven that we're I'm not going to say that it's not, but I think your bigger threat is automation is everywhere.

Then, we look at a 500 Startups company, VCV, who automates the sourcing and much of the recruiting at

Automation in the interview space is smokin' hot, and Indianapolis-based Darrian Mikell and Qualifi is hoping the profit off the trend by providing automated phone pre-screening for healthcare pros, truckers It's either a home run or a total face-plant, offering too little, too late in an ever-automating world They need automation to be able to help them do that. I think a lot of companies will embrace the automation piece.

Automated Voice: Alright, alright, alright. Joel: We can all rest everybody. Chad: Yeah, well. Automated Voice: Just the tip. So you can see that this just starts creating more and more and more and more automated content that's [laughter] Automated Voice: Doesn't anyone notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. [laughter] Automated Voice: 60% of the time, it works every time. Joel: And with that, we out.

I knew that he was really passionate about figuring out the automation points from end-to-end, from source Danielle: We had to approach it by being inspired by marketing automation, but remembering We can really work as an end-to-end automation platform or communication platform from source-to-hire When I mentioned an end-to-end solution for recruitment automation, it's going to be one product. Everybody's looking for automation.

Lieven (17:44.728) But I'm not sure how much actually is totally automated and how much looks automated Lieven (19:11.244) So I think 90 % of recruitment can be automated and can be replaced by those agents investment will expand, go to market and support teams in Poland, Mexico and Colombia, enhance localized HR automation Lieven (26:12.248) would make it by for me, but they say the main goal of Peopleforce is to automate

He pulls out the gift cards, Joel automatically starts drooling. Joel: Is some of that automated or is that all human to human from when they apply? JD Cummings: We have the ability to automate and there are some messages that are like, when we initiate Joel: Another hot issue has been automation. Now, based on your previous comments, I'm guessing whether you're a fan of automation or not, the human

And of those three, Amazon puts me into an obviously automated process. I feel cold. And then others that are just automated and that's probably a money situation. I just don't think that you can. certain parts of the hiring process you can afford to fully automate It's a, we don't need so many people we're automating, which means, okay, we're spending less on it. Joel Cheesman (55:11.866) We could scale back recruiting, we could go fully automation, but you know

Our workflow automation engine will be able to then capture that data and put that data in any source One of those is that we believe in the end-to-end automation experience is critical. We're deeply doubling down in the technology investments relative to automating that end-to-end, and between the machine learning and our team of experienced customer success team focus, we've really automated It's really process automation, which is awesome and necessary, tell us why it's AI instead of more RPA

Joel Cheesman: I think automation is the second horseman. Maybe they're going to automate the firing procedure to make it more efficient in the coming years. They offer an automated headhunting solution using AI and cultural matching to connect talent with companies Chad Sowash: Verifications, simulations and automated processes, we don't need candidates for hospitality I struggled with this one more than the other two because it does have the automated, the instant shifts

Some candidates would rather have the fully automated experience. Jon Krohn: Our mission is to automate as many things as we can. That kind of automation of the search where they don't even have to go actively look. Some candidates would rather have the fully automated experience. I think that there is a place for total automation and there are people that go with total automation

They partner with Google to create basically a real time automated chat in the drive-through. Back to your comment about automation, this is largely going to be a race to how quickly can we automate I mentioned Wendy's at the top of the show, automating the drive through, you mentioned the hotel in Companies are going to race to automate and have fewer people working. But yeah, it's a race to automation and how politics is going to react to people losing jobs if they

And it seems like your solution is, is highly automate or highly manual. Do you have automation in your plans? That was the second piece of my question. There's a good degree of automation today, but I would say it's in the form of efficiency and not in That's pivoting or moving into more automated, automated tools to move into the future. I just, I think you need to deliver on the automated, the automation services.

In a world where the application process is automated and the initial interviewing process is automated But no one is caring about brand at the application if they're automating that process. And that's the fastest way to get automated out of existence by sounding and looking the same.

Now more than ever, you need to automate and optimize your job ads. Think SEO for job ads. Is this an automated process? Is it a consulting process? Is it a manual thing? What is it you actually automate? Because for me, an automated process involves ATS, VMS, career site. We're looking at that automation piece. We're joining the ecosystem around recruitment.

It's all automated at restaurants. So Amazon says yeah, I have to automate. I have to. What piqued your interest on that from an automation standpoint? why obviously Entelo created this automation trends report. But Cielo, I know, has automation put in place, much like the Canvas automation that you're talking about

Strava, service, predicts AI agents in their comet browser, which I don't know who uses that, will automate Joel Cheesman (45:37.026) He expects full automation within six to 12 months, turning browsers into OS , Mark Benioff, CEO of Salesforce was on Bloomberg, had some really interesting things to say about automation Like you said, like it's going to push people into new jobs. going to automate the painful shit that Like a lot of people freaked out about automation and Joel Cheesman (53:34.689) What?

[automated voice] Chad: Here we go. Not again. [automated voice] Joel: CEOs aren't going anywhere, Chad. Chad: They aren't. I know. Joel: And believe you me a lot of the shit they do can be automated or at least augmented. [automated voice] Joel: Facebook for your company. [automated voice] Joel: Alright, Doomsday part two, baby, here we go, let's go to a little more corporate

Joel: I was interested, the paper from the World Employment Confederation had no mention of automation Borderless offers automated vetting and sourcing via visa processing and relocation management services Borderless aims to automate the hiring and onboarding of international workers, simplifying the process And then as the company says, its mission is to automate everything. I work 24 hours a day, seven days a week at scale to help you grow faster and automate prospecting.

that's kind of the case with a lot of stuff whenever you're talking about artificial intelligence and automated different than that in the world of HR, if anything, it's even more kind of wide open and unclear how automated to the, here's what you should do as far as specific questions, but just to give one example of why automating They're using technology, but there's nothing that's actually automated around. If you're okay with that, then maybe the use of an automated process makes sense on some level, but you

Like there's a big negative to letting automation happen in the driving sector. That's going to be interesting to sort of watch out for is what you had raised, which is how is automation And that interaction of gig companies with automation is going to be very interesting.

All right, let's get to automation. One of your favorite topics. sfx (32m 12s): Shall we play Game? Joel (32m 15s): So how much does automation have to do with all these layoffs? ISEE is focused on automation, the 500,000 yard trucks that operate globally. Every week on this show, we tend to talk about more robotics and automation and the wheels go faster Ironically, it's the laid off tech workers of today that will be fueling the automation companies of

giveaway that there ain't shit going on at your company, particularly today when there's AI tools to like automate Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleiman said all all white collar work will be automated by AI. in 18 months That's how technology, that's how AI, that's how automation and agents are literally gonna take over Chad Sowash (45:45.72) I think we're fine. mean, I personally, I've listened to some of these automated vibe coding at Arby's just so you know, Chad, I know you're concerned about your roast beef getting automated

We've seen things that they've thrown at the wall and they've automatically, I mean, they've pulled very This from the TechCrunch article, quote, potential market opportunity for AI driven automation consulting He's done massive, huge automation projects for UPS, like hiring 100 ,000 people in six weeks. If you don't know what replica is, it's kind of an automated girlfriend, boyfriend back to her quote. They can automate that now.

And totally automated. Now Jobs has 100 million euros revenue a few years later and totally automated. So that's great. The funding will help Alpha automate recruitment tasks and enable hiring managers to focus on candidate sexy and we like things being sexy, but I think you don't need Avery to avoid bad hires. mean, AI is automating

. 🦾 AI replacing humans: A startup literally called Mechanize  wants to automate everything . college degree. yeah, and a startup called Mechanize launched this week promising to quote, the full automation So they talk about full automation of work and full automation of the economy. Okay. AI isn't just automating tasks. It's dismantling everything recruiting has been based on. And what if Germany or Japan beat us to developing the atomic weapon in World War II, right?

these companies have the money to invest in higher wages to draw in more workers and even invest in automation One is automation, and the other is increasing the minimum wage. And as far as automation, I do think that that will happen eventually in agriculture. It may take 20 or 30 years, but the attempts to automate fruit and vegetable harvesting have usually

The three big themes discussed: The Great Resignation, Automation, and Remote Work (and yes, ghosting survey, which is another, a big theme that we've talked about on the show for, well over a year is automation you call them chat bots or conversational AI, you guys have some really interesting numbers around automation You mentioned ghosting, which I think is impacted a lot by the automated hiring process so talk about what you guys found in the automation category.

So, literally automation in AI, thus far, conversationally, whatever you'd like to call it has been great Is it AI, is it RPA, is it automation? HR professionals have enough time to dig into what AI is, large language models are, versus RPA and automation Because RPA, robotic process automation is basically, it's zeros and ones, it's yeses and nos.

And we match that up with a manufacturing specific recruiting platform that uses both automation and , but that's opening up new opportunities to, you know, plan out that automation and figure out better Certainly we hear about robotics and automation and all the manufacturing skills. know, there are a lot of jobs that become careers available to you and, you know, they're not being automated And so then the next layer of that is actually showcasing the new jobs alongside the automation and the

HR Geckos is an HR operations co-pilot that automates key HR processes, connects all HR systems, and And we automate key HR processes, connect all HR systems, and our AI -powered help desk is the only help In fact, the term sometimes helps them better understand what we can do as an automation and a technology So we start with that onboarding and that's where the automation part of our platform comes in as well

important, not just as a company, is that while we're no doubt going to embrace and enable and drive automation Now, many of us are spending our days building and managing bots and automating workflow. , to bundle a group of key technologists together, to drive technology's simplicity, to drive smart automation We're going to talk a lot about automation these next couple of days, a bit about that in our story we're

The conversation dives into the future of recruitment, where automation and AI are reshaping the job And they'll be able to do that through automation. Joel Cheeseman: Yeah. Like that is one level of the automation. The automation Sean's talking about is the hiring and the scheduling and the flexibility there. So, you have automation on two sides of that, which kind of are coming together.

As tools like Seek Out, Hiring Solved and others are taking share, and the automation tools are coming Will it automate? Yes. Will it scale? Yes, I believe it will. Chad (22m 49s): So SkyHive doesn't really help automate. It could help scale. The thing is, will this help automate? No. Will it help scale? Yeah, I believe so. Chad, are you ready to get down with the automation at the restaurant?

Million Question Bot Killing the 40-Minute Assessment From 30% to 90% Conversion The "Human" Side of Automation Um, I want you to go back in time, the, the days before automation and all these things were going on

Everything from AI to automation to … ah, hell, there were too many German beers and links of sausage And their stress is automation and how quickly, and do we automate many of the jobs of the frontline We're seeing some of the basic sourcing, the first contact, if you will, of candidates being automated Things that you would normally do content-wise are being automated by ChatGPT. And we're sadly going to a time where job seekers are automating, companies are automating, and robots