I think, you know, the quintessential example is Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs, obviously. Chad (22m 46s): Talk about the job description real quick. How can you impact the job description with good storytelling? But a lot of these job descriptions still say, Hey, you need a college degree. Julie (24m 26s): I mean, I certainly can say the job description is your ad, right?

Good job, guys. And last but never least, but of course Mikhil Raja, CEO of Sonic Jobs. But anyway, Careerbuilder, our favorite dumpster fire, job board world, has laid off, rumors have it, Click here to post jobs now." And staying somewhat local, the next topic is Salesforce, and we'll talk about job or Joel: Labor hoarding

The easy way out is to say that there is, you know, no one's applying for the job. that they really like, they're applying to like 10 jobs simultaneously. Usually they're like, I need to get a job in the next two weeks. You know, like you've gotta do a great job from the moment that person applies. Now the job they're doing is different, right.

And I said, do the job seekers like it? Like, here's my job. If you want to know more, apply now click here. Chad (10:19.378) All they have to do is buy job pixel and it's done. If you want to get in front of passive job seekers, the people that aren't searching jobs, give them But now tech is making that full-time job a split second task.

Chad (23m 47s): Green job interview. It's the first job board in the Metaverse. Joel (25m 9s): Combined with Pokemon go. Tim (25m 11s): Go, find your job. Chad (25m 12s): Yeah. Career builder has that. Chad (32m 42s): Are you like trolling in cell message boards for predictions. So this is a Q3 of 2021 earnings call when job sites are printing fucking money.

There's not gonna be a band on board. Joel Cheeseman: There is. Well, not a band but we have music. You don't have a job. No job. You go into poverty mode. Poverty equals pain, period. Right? And this kids is what every single fucking board of directors is talking about right here. If you don't get your ass back to work, you're lucky to have a job is basically the mentality. It's not gonna be focused on any CEOs or boards or any of that shit.

I was CRO of Bounty Jobs for about four and a half years. Joel, you brought up, I was even at Job Fox for a period of time and Oodle for a period of time. I want this, you know, they have to have all these things to do that job. We have clients who don't use resumes for certain jobs, right? Cause it's not gonna, it's gonna take some jobs and those are the jobs they probably should take to be

I think what I love about this job is getting up every single day knowing that I get to go meet, talk You can leverage AI to really just push the envelope on understanding what skills are needed for a job And then from the other side, look at what does this job need? What are those skills? Joel: Don't say Tinder for jobs. Don't say Tinder for jobs. [laughter] Taylor Weiss: No, no, no. What if we could push that into the education system when you're interviewing for jobs?

I'm like, who's gonna chat for a job? This is ridiculous. I'm a job seeker. I go to, you know, company.com/jobs. Maybe I don't even look at a job. We'd love to talk to you about a job. You know, what's a virtual job. People setting up fake companies and fake jobs.

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Steven Hunt: Yeah, another mouthful is my job title. Steven Hunt: No, it's more than that, it's job design. Hey, my job is about helping companies create more effective job design, better staffing, more, better And I realize there's a lot of jobs you can't work hybrid. But even in those jobs, it's also creating a lot more empathy for people whose jobs require them to work

I mean, it's something that people are like, well, if they want, they can go try another job. realized this AI Ferrari ain't got no engine And while the CEO stepped down, he's still clinging to the board Lieven (26:07.496) something which is going to destroy lots of jobs. You are going to lose jobs, you know? The worst part about the hiring process for candidates is being told you didn't get the job.

the Hell out of it - College kids are sharpening their coding chops with Youtube - Singing day with a jobs Good job. Joel: I can't get behind the ugly sweater. You go to LinkedIn, you post a job. Here are LinkedIn profiles, professionals that fit the job. board partners. If the coal mines close, do they have any other skills to get a new job?

So, let's break that down into like, what does that actually mean in the job? , you could keep your job. And a lot of times, you know, you're lucky you feel lucky to have a job. Like every job can be different. I don't think, I don't think that a robot could do my job yet.

It is my job. Yeah, literally. Chad (10:40.37) So we're gonna, we're... good God. to get a job in this market. And so people will not go take jobs at companies that don't have the values that they do. Do they expect these individuals to go do those jobs? And then what's going to happen to the job? I mean, this is just fucking lunacy.

aggregated and utilized at a macro level to drive smarter talent marketing, sourcing, interviewing and on boarding It's better for job seekers narrative. They are so good at this. directly to the company's career site to review the job description. Okay, so how deep make the apply easier and mandate salaries on jobs? Well, they make salary compulsory on every single job.

She was going for a job there. And I twas thinking, "You know what? Joel: What are your thoughts on Google for Jobs initiative? Example, Indeed for jobs. And the job boards, it was very clear I think really from the beginning that Indeed at one point was , retaking the spot as the aggregator for job discovery.

It might not have been announced this way because he's the fucking executive board chairman, right? That's what Fabio has done, he's stepping back into the executive board chair position. Chad: Yeah, the board meeting, all that stuff, I don't see it lasting very long guys don't remember, they had their second sort of executive leave within a year of the company and the board Joel: Job boards, yeah that was good.

Like, I mean, that was a good out of college job. , but I'll give you an extra grand a week if you do this job." It's not for the world at large to find out, "Oh, Microsoft has a job." So no, like the jobs are still there, they just did different things, right? It's like, here's how it works and here's what the job really is.

But no, he did a really good job. It will also create jobs. And I think The Chad (27:47.179) Yeah, being claimant. It spiked during the pandemic because everybody was like doing three jobs and a full-time job and doing Good job. Get Mo, get The Chad (41:03.129) Well, first, the agents, see our last segment, right? By the way, if you're a kid looking for a job or business, shipbuilding is going to be a thing.

Look if you're in a dating app- Joel: Tinder for jobs. experiences, the better the outcomes are going to be for the companies and for the people that are coming on board closer and closer and closer because companies are recognizing the value of that engagement across the board Thom: A lot of these technologies are going to be leveraged across the board from the boards and the point solutions, but also for the CRMs and the ATSs.

Unfortunately, no one wants this job. It's, fun watching the demise of a once great job. Chad (10:53.681) No. They must be emailing all their employers and all their job seekers to check out the show because they're She did a really good job and hitting all the points. Chad (40:02.085) to cover those jobs and the loss in revenue. last but not least, remember when COVID

but something important and I was maybe and current CEO who was also the founder is going to stay on board We have 45 brands now and all those are, most of the CEOs are still on boards and they are investing In December of 2021 Job And Talent closed a $440 million euros. I'm going to be on the lookout for Job and Talent ads for podcast spots. And we should be able to shut bullying down much like we do on Facebook or chat boards or Reddit or whatever

I'm looking at the board, which hadn't updated yet. And I'm like, no board said this isn't our train. Are you sure this isn't the train? He asked like 10 times I'm like, and the board doesn't say it's the train. So it's not the train. Chad (4m 34s): As soon as it left the board updated and I went, oh shit, that was our train. So, so there's some disconnect with job boards thinking they can just plug in a little bit of data and

Dan Finnegan was a CEO, it was job fight, it was an employee at that time. and not take away your job, that is also positive as well. All this despite a 10 % drop in us job openings and a soft holiday hiring season. The whole Phil chat bot, find a job is not on the, it's gone. I couldn't find it. You got to give us your info before we show you the jobs.

They don't like being told if you're a CEO and you've got a job to fill in, you feel like Chad could We've got this great job in LA. We want you to come. Chad has to think about moving his kids. His wife has a job or whatever. Where now it's just like, hey, we're still the cool company in LA. And I think it's something that job, when I say job, hiring managers think about because it will, these But we're also hearing about them sort of part-timing their old jobs.

Joel (6m 23s): Or should more branding come at the forefront of before applying to a job? Which is your job description. I mean you can't, you can't have all this bullshit fluff. Joel (8m 43s): And then you customize your job description based on what people want. So you want to have the people who do the job to be on the videos. Joel (10m 16s): You know, there are job posting services that'll embed video on your job.

And now iCIMS plucks the best Marketo for recruiting platform off the board. The sale is the biggest jobs related domain purchase in quite a while. They should have just bought a board ape NFT and I'm only half joking about that part. Like they're quitting their jobs and they're not coming back. And they're like, well, what they're quitting the most is a service industry, jobs and retail jobs.

And in the restaurant sector alone, there could be a deluge of job cuts. boards or job sites if there's no hiring going on at companies. All these jobs look the same. Oh, next. job descriptions. And then it's like, "Oh, well she said I got to post 300 jobs." And then what?

European businesses like Personio, HiBob, Job&Talent and others are shaking things up, and it goes both So it's changing actually jobs, products, and in my opinion, it's a very good logic to get more and more We have a logic of being kind, keeping development, but also having the sort of job secureness. Because the bottom line is the only thing that the board and the CEO and the C-suite care about, all They were hoarding talent. Right? And now they're flushing talent out.

I've been hunting for a job vacancy called a panda nanny. Many jobs. So we were talking about people hired or hoarded talent. But isn't it our job as organizations to go out and start to cultivate that new crop and then get them of the things we've seen over the last three years and one of the things that we've seen across the board And that's not a knock on anybody, it's just, that's not their job.

Do you think I'd have my job for a long? Adam (8m 54s): Absolutely not. So obviously who looked at the job description, but did not click the apply button yet. Nobody wants spam with job descriptions if they're not looking for a job. , I don't get fired if I don't do your job. Joel (20m 53s): I get fired for not doing my job. I don't get fired for not doing your job.

I'm not going on LinkedIn and finding a silicone manufacturing expert looking for a job right now. They do an incredible job and they've been with me through everything. No one's losing their job. I'm not going to let that happen. job growth. If impacts job growth, well, then those individuals are not going to have money in their pockets.

Tech for job seekers, and an interview prep tool. So you just add the job title into this and the job description. We don't focus on the hard lost revenue types of numbers, which the board gives a shit about. That doesn't mean a fucking thing to the board unless you can put numbers to it, right? Joel: Eharmony bought the eharmony of jobs.

The single most important thing to realize is that it's not an employee's job to be productive. My job isn't to be productive. My job is to make my team smart. top person or a glue worker, like aren't there. situations, sometimes it's the CEO, would say Steve Jobs It's not that they come in and get everybody on board. Jon Levy (24:52.31) in terms of performance versus those people who have the same jobs who do not have

I also am on the board of the Dru Project, which is a nonprofit organization that we started shortly So, you know, politically that is a really big issue across the board. called the best of the best corporations for inclusion, not just for the LGBTQ community, but across the board And I learned that 34% of L G B T have left their job due to treatment by their employer. Sara (33m 16s): to apply for these jobs.

Baby on board. Joel: Hold on. You started a company, got married and you're having a baby. From Active Jobs, passive sourcing and career page, all the way to onboarding and beyond. So basically a JobPixel is a full image of a job. So I can get on board with that name. All right. You were founded in 2020. There's a lot of competitors doing videos itself, adding them into jobs and so on.

and too many people who have the skills that don't have jobs that are going to be open. They're going to start applying to jobs. if JT, right. I'm actually an adviser for Sonic jobs and agentic is here. It's been here. Joel (41:55.63) Yep, unbiased jobs. Pfft. I do the same job. I do this. I want to be your partner. Emi B (48:59.951) Yeah.

Rick has been texting with job candidates for almost a decade, and he brings his best tips and takeaways You're going to end up in jail, you're going to lose your job or you're going to get divorced. And I said, "Look, you want a job in the corner office. It says, "Get a job offer in 25 minutes." Is that driven by youth? Are there stipulations? So these are part-time jobs where it's going to be 20 hours or less.

Let's not forget she does have an actual job right now. So they didn't apply to the job. They had no skills whatsoever. right? Like it's just dumb AF. And so they fall back on old job wrecks. We're going to have more jobs 20 years from now that we can't even fathom today. If you were stagnant, you are falling behind and you are not doing your job properly.

as importantly, the job's fit to the candidate. He does a great job but it's hilarious. Tim is like the face of SHRM right now. JobAdX is Google Ad Sense for jobs. That means we're an efficient, persistent, and smarter ad unit for job related advertising. JobAdX: We also provided publishers and job boards higher rev share than other partners,

They're going to find a job that gives them that technology. And they were asked if they have more jobs to fill this year. If they don't get the job, give them that, Hey, I'm sorry, you didn't get the job, but guess what, here are two or three other jobs or would you like updates for new jobs? What a fun job! Chad (19m 40s): That would be a fun job. It would be a fun job.

It transfers from job to job. At the core of our system is a metric. We call it the gauge score. It is a private and personal lifelong career builder designed to travel with you from job to job. You got work human achievers, kudo board, bonus Lee linked in with their recommendation. Somebody walks in off the street, you know, I don't know them from Adam, I'm offering them a job. So it's not like a job case or someone with a lot of money is going to come in and buy this thing.

announced it was ending operations in Spain, which will result in more than 3000 writers losing their jobs UK based rec tech startup Applied known for its unbiased hiring service has introduced a job board feature Listeners might remember June co raising 10 million, the acquisition of diversity jobs by circa and the You've got to focus on job descriptions, the very basics of what we've been doing wrong for decades.

agent-to-agent communication" do the heavy lifting so recruiters can finally get back to the human side of the job Chad Sowash: Umm, but then you're hearing about job uh, seekers, candidates who don't wanna talk to AI But when I'm looking for a job, I gotta have a human. And so instead of just publishing and advertising another job and then getting more applications, they Uh, they need effective processes and tech to be able to help them do their job more, faster.

I would completely agree that the stack is more standard and we see that across the board. They then farm it out to job boards. That vacancy gets sourced and we support the filling of that job. Mark: ... talent acquisition vendors, but vendors across the board. into another job.

also talks about the importance of AI in recruiting and how it can optimize the human element of the job Versus TA, it's their job. They need to think about their jobs differently, but I think net -net it's possible. for technology, which is why not many companies do it, being able to actually rip resumes apart and job And there's so much benefit to having those folks on our board and helping us grow the business.

And I think a lot of people might be scared that they're going to robot me out of a job. And that makes them a little more marketable when it comes down to finding the next job. It's not about the job they're doing now. It's about the job in the future. All because that we were able to take what they were doing administratively, cut that job down, and now Your job's fun. Jesus. Stefan Premdas: I get to do all the fun things.

We're making sure that the people that are currently already in the job aren't suffering because they OTJ, on the job, right? OJT, on the job training, right? They don't wanna sit in the classroom. On the job. Yeah. Angela Cheng-Cimini (16:15.368) extremely ambitious. We don't have to post a job. I mean, it is not a good job, and they are probably often the most overlooked as well.

We don’t spend a lot of time interviewing TA pros with such a deep competency of the job and the industry Joel: But they need people to do this job. Vanessa: Two things guaranteed in life, right? have the right skills, whether that's the silver medalist candidate that we just didn't have a second job Chad: And start to keep them warm, engage them, and they might already be in a job. Chad: It surfaces candidates, and then they're automatically invited to apply for the job.