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The hottest podcast in Human Resources, Talent Acquisition, and Talent Management.



Indeed Combats Hot Resume Injections
The gang covers Indeed, LinkedIn, Artisan and ChatGPT news.
Joel Cheesman
Jan 16


Human Renaissance with Jim Kukral
AI didn’t kill creativity — it buried it under AI slop. Jim Kukral joins Chad & Cheese to rip into Coke’s AI ads, the coming “Chipotle Effect,” and why humanity’s last unfair advantage is being human. Jim even quit his job to throw wild, screen-free boat parties on Lake Erie. Are we headed for a Human Renaissance… or trapped in our digital cages?
Chad Sowash
Jan 13


2026 Predictions Show
It’s prediction season — and chaos season. Chad, Cheese, and Lieven review how wrong (and occasionally right) 2025 predictions were, then unleash bold 2026 calls: AI eating jobs, agencies bleeding out, Indeed tightening control, robots going physical, and authenticity getting faker than ever. Predictions are never wrong… they just haven’t happened yet.
Chad Sowash
Jan 9


Marketing's Blind Spot with Zoom's CMO Kim Storin
Chad & Joel go deep with Kim Storin, CMO of Zoom, on brand, AI, and why marketing lost its soul chasing MQLs. Challenger mindset, Bowen Yang, human-in-the-loop AI, CFO wrangling, and why trust beats demand gen. If you think marketing, recruiting, and employer brand are separate… this episode will hurt (in a good way).
Chad Sowash
Jan 6


2025 Wrap-Up Show
2025 didn’t just rattle HR. Nope, it ripped the curtain down and set it on fire. Job boards hoarded hiring data, HR tech rivals flirted with espionage, PE bled legacy platforms dry, and founders played chess while workers paid. Add AI ghosting resumes, Slack DMs as evidence, LinkedIn as a minefield, and recruiters stuck in the blast zone. Pass the popcorn. 🍿
Chad Sowash
Jan 2


Does LinkedIn Hate Women? w/ Martyn Redstone
LinkedIn claims its algorithm is neutral—but is it? In this episode, the boys sit down with AI-in-HR governance expert Martyn Redstone to unpack a viral experiment exposing proxy bias that quietly suppresses women’s voices. No explicit discrimination, just algorithms reinforcing inequality. If you work in HR, tech, or live on LinkedIn, this episode will change how you see your feed.
Chad Sowash
Dec 30, 2025


2025 Holiday Show
The Chad & Cheese Holiday Show is a greatest-hits remix of 2025’s smartest, spiciest hiring conversations. AI hype, fake applicants, job boards losing power, smarter recruiting, and leaders who actually tell the truth. One episode. All the chaos. Press play and start 2026 smarter.
Chad Sowash
Dec 26, 2025


Naughty & Nice 2025
Chad, Cheese, and Mo drop their 2025 Naughty & Nice lists. Praising leaders who owned their messes and roasting companies that face-planted hard. From Amazon’s brutal layoffs and SHRM’s courtroom fail to HR tech espionage, ColdplayGate, bourbon giveaways, and dad jokes HR would ban this episode pulls zero punches.
Chad Sowash
Dec 19, 2025


5 Questions Before Buying w/ Alexis Meschi
On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel & Chad sit down with Ora Marketing co-founder Alexis Meschi to torch bad AI buying habits, lazy LinkedIn “thought leadership,” and tools that kill workflow instead of revenue. A sharp checklist for recruiters who want results—not AI sugar highs.
Chad Sowash
Dec 16, 2025


LinkedIn's Trust Tree
LinkedIn verifies 100M profiles, Findem straps 800 niche job boards to an AI rocket, and Walmart proves paying people actually works. Meanwhile, UKG and CultureAmp drop holiday layoffs, JT declares job boards dead, Chad compares TA to NFL QB chaos, and Joel brings back the Three Wise Cocks bourbon giveaway. Hide your kids—Chad & Cheese is back.
Chad Sowash
Dec 12, 2025


You're Doing AI Wrong w/ Charlene Li
Charlene Li joins Chad & Cheese to roast why 95% of AI pilots fail, why CEOs treat AI like a shiny toy, and how HR can finally grab a real seat at the table. From “shadow AI” to “speed is the new moat,” this episode packs insights, chaos, and Taco Bell–level danger. Tune in or get left behind.
Chad Sowash
Dec 9, 2025


VONQ Goes Hollywood & Indeed Builds a Death Star
VONQ drops a Hollywood-style launch, Indeed builds even higher walls, Instagram forces RTO, and Australia boots kids off social media. Plus unions and staffing unite against AI, Home Depot protest caroling, and peak holiday chaos. Buckle up — Chad, JT, and Lieven are on fire this week.
Chad Sowash
Dec 5, 2025


ICE ICE Baby w/ Desiree Throckmorton
The Chad & Cheese dive into the rising storm of I-9 compliance with OutSolve’s Desiree Throckmorton. With ICE’s $170B budget surge and 15,000 inspections coming in 2026, sloppy I-9s can mean fines up to $27K per violation. Remote checks, wrong docs, missing fields—everything’s fair game. Add skyrocketing H-1B fees and recent raids, and Desiree warns: audit now, centralize records, and get ICE-ready or get burned.
Chad Sowash
Dec 2, 2025


TURKEYS: Indeed, Randstad, SHRM and...
Chad & Cheese return with the annual Jive Turkey extravaganza—roasting industry clowns, SHRM’s ivory tower, ZipRecruiter’s ghost podcast, dystopian AI layoffs, PE vultures, Messi mayhem, Google’s Gemini flex, and the €6K Dublin spy who nuked his career. Plus guest turkeys from JT, Mo, Julie, Allyn, and Michelle. Grab a drink and gobble up the chaos.
Chad Sowash
Nov 28, 2025


From Hi to Hired w/ Julia Levy
Julia Levy joins Chad & Cheese to unpack TA chaos, vendor BS, and why today’s tech feels like 2015 with a chatbot glued on. She breaks down how students can actually land internships, why AI is now talking to AI, and what inspired her new book “From Hi to Hired.” Plus: Euro-Chad, Super Bock, shrinkage jokes, and plenty of hard-won TA wisdom.
Chad Sowash
Nov 25, 2025


Zoom & Workday Get Busy
Robots doing kung-fu, Russia’s robot doing… whatever that was, a three-legged Rottweiler incident, and Dallas feeling like pre-apocalypse Road Warrior. Chad & Cheese break down Zoom buying BrightHire, Meta grading employees on AI, Verizon cutting 15k jobs, Scotland’s big win, and job seekers using Tinder to land interviews. Chaos? Always.
Chad Sowash
Nov 21, 2025


Team Intelligence w/ Jon Levy
Jon Levy joins The Chad & Cheese to demolish leadership myths and reveal why “A-players” alone tank teams. From super-chickens to Shane Battier, he shows how emotional intelligence, passing the ball, and real team diversity drive performance. His book Team Intelligence is a must-read for leaders who want smarter, stronger teams.
Chad Sowash
Nov 18, 2025


Indeed's Stranglehold Gets Tighter
Indeed tightens its grip with Connect—velvet handcuffs disguised as “innovation.” Paywalls for basic tools, data grabs, shakedown-style marketplace tactics, and a new BS metric (ARPJ) built to impress Wall Street, not employers. Chad & Cheese break down how Indeed’s stranglehold is getting tighter—and why the future looks more like a jail cell than a product upgrade.
Chad Sowash
Nov 14, 2025


5 Must-Have AI Agents w/ David Weinstock
Recorded LIVE onstage at Recfest US in Nashville! David Weinstock is a Talent Acquisition leader who isn’t just talking about the “future of work” — he’s actually building it. Think less “post another LinkedIn thinkpiece about AI” and more “deploy AI agents that actually eliminate half the nonsense recruiters deal with daily.” As VP of Talent Acquisition at New Story, David runs talent across 16 wildly different companies — which basically means he lives in 16 different reali
Chad Sowash
Nov 11, 2025


Will SAP and Workday Go Amazon?
AI isn’t hype anymore. Should platforms race toward Amazon-style, automated hiring, conversion, and candidate engagement at scale.
Chad Sowash
Nov 7, 2025


Flighting Job Seeker Fraud
High-volume hiring is a knife fight. Fraud is up, screening is crushing teams, and Covey + operators show how AI actually fixes it.
Chad Sowash
Nov 4, 2025


iCIMS Awakes, Amazon Axes, and Monster Shambles On
Halloween chaos on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: layoffs, AI audits, Monster’s zombie comeback & Canada poaching U.S. nurses.
Chad Sowash
Oct 31, 2025


How Compass Group Reduced Job Board Dependency with Shay Johnson
Compass Group cut $1.5M in Indeed waste, boosted applies 2%→12% & built a hiring machine. Shay Johnson drops the playbook.
Chad Sowash
Oct 28, 2025


Facebook Jobs Rises While OpenAI Gets Dirty
Facebook resurrects its zombie job board while OpenAI launches a browser and dives into AI-powered smut. Tech has lost its mind.
Chad Sowash
Oct 24, 2025
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