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Hacking Jack & Jill
On HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, CodeWall CEO Paul Price reveals how AI agents breached startup Jack and Jill. By chaining trivial bugs, his AI accessed data from firms like Monzo and Anthropic, including PII and salaries. The AI even socially engineered other bots by cloning voices and posing as journalists.
Chad Sowash
Mar 24


Indeed Desperation & Vibe-Coder Rise
In this episode of the Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys dive into the escalating "cage match" between Indeed and LinkedIn. They break down Indeed’s aggressive new spend-matching program, questioning if it’s a genuine incentive or a tactical data grab for competitive intelligence. Meanwhile, LinkedIn counters with AI-managed interviews. Plus, a look at vibe-coding and Travis Kalanick’s robots.
Chad Sowash
Mar 20


Break Everything with Rebecca Carr
Mallorca, sun’s out and Rebecca Carr is burning down recruiting as we know it. ATS? Dead. AI agents? Running the show. SmartRecruiters goes from commodity to SAP power play while most companies cling to broken tech stacks. If your hiring strategy still looks like 2015… yeah, you’re already toast.
Chad Sowash
Mar 17


(Yet Another) Death of the Resume Debate
Is the resume finally dead, or is it just being fitted for a digital tuxedo? The team squares off on whether AI "slop" has officially broken the application process, leading to a fiery debate on why your personal brand might be the only life raft left in an unstable sea.
Joel Cheesman
Mar 13


Ghosting, Grinding, and Getting Screwed: Job Search in 2026
The job market is a mess. Jillian O’Malior joins Chad, Cheese, and JT to break down 600 job applications, endless interviews, ghosting recruiters, and roles that disappear after months of hiring theater. We dig into AI resume spam, shrinking salaries, ATS black holes, and why today’s hiring process makes candidates feel less human and more like data points.
Chad Sowash
Mar 10


Will ICIMS AI Coalesce?
Fresh paint, same problems? iCIMS launches a new brand, Indeed finally hires a CTO, and companies blame AI for layoffs while others promise AI training. Chad & Cheese unpack the hype, the leadership shakeups, and the never-ending HR tech buzzword parade.
Chad Sowash
Mar 6


Swiftynomics w/ Misty Heggeness
Economists, Swifties, and HR chaos collide. Misty Heggeness joins the boys to talk Taylor’s economic empire, women building their own power systems, AI bias, and why trickle-down is on life support. Census Bureau nerds, pandemic wine writing, and peak Chad & Cheese snark included.
Chad Sowash
Mar 3


Stepstone Spins & Kombo Wins
Hold onto your scotch—Chad and the ladies are back for a cheese-free episode of HR’s most dangerous podcast. This week: StepStone is spinning stats, JT warns of Silicon Valley’s "superstar" obsession, and Emi calls BS on corporate hype. From Olympic Village condom shortages to Nantucket’s cocaine-filled sewers, it’s a chaotic deep dive into the industry’s messiest corners. Don’t be average.
Chad Sowash
Feb 27


Becoming Choosable w/ James Ellis
Employer branding is broken and James Ellis is here to fix it. In this episode, we torch “spray & pray” applications, call out ATS robots, and explain why pretty career sites don’t make you choosable. If you think talent is interchangeable, you’re already losing. Snark included. Egos? Not safe.
Chad Sowash
Feb 24


Indeed Smart Screen Dumps
Indeed’s “smart” screening hits turbulence — launches, pullbacks, and black-box scoring raising eyebrows. The boys unpack the mess, plus LinkedIn’s comedy pivot, Google monetizing Jobs, Phenom’s AI shopping spree, and white-collar extinction hype. Innovation… or chaos?
Chad Sowash
Feb 20


Unfolding the Eightfold Lawsuit
Bots “enriching hiring and society”? Sure, if by scraping your data, guessing your personality, and ghosting you with a smiley match score. Chad & Cheese break down the Eightfold lawsuit with attorney Rachel Dempsey, unpacking AI black boxes, FCRA risk, and why “ethical AI” might be the biggest buzzword in recruiting.
Chad Sowash
Feb 17


Indeed's Pricing Black Box
Recruit kicks things off by squeezing employers with Indeed’s black-box pricing just as the market tightens. Then it’s pure chaos: HR tech shakeups, AI hype rattling SaaS, bots invading job search, and lawsuits circling hiring platforms. Toss in Super Bowl ad shade and job-market anxiety… and yeah, things get spicy fast.
Chad Sowash
Feb 13


Talent's Big Reckoning w/ Quincy Valencia
The “Big Reckoning” is coming. AI is speeding up hiring—but also exposing every broken process, silo, and fake “collaboration” in talent orgs. Execs spent the money and now want real results, not pretty dashboards. When better talent doesn’t show up, leaders—not the tech—take the hit. Robots move faster… outcomes stay mediocre. Buckle up.
Chad Sowash
Feb 10


Rippling Aims for Super Bowl Win
The duo dives deep into Rippling’s bold Super Bowl debut featuring Tim Robinson, debating whether the "evil genius" move is a brilliant recruitment play or a calculated nod to Wall Street. While Microsoft celebrates a massive LinkedIn revenue milestone.
Joel Cheesman
Feb 6


Are Job Boards Solving the Hiring Problem?
Are job boards fixing hiring or just selling more clicks? 🤔 Chad & Cheese welcome Lou Goodman (*Job Board Revolution*) and Jobiqo CEO Martin Lenz to torch volume-based hiring, “quality vs. qualified,” broken ATSs, AI agents, and the future of job boards. Are they evolving… or quietly dying?
Chad Sowash
Feb 3


Eightfold Gets Served
AI finally does what it does best: gets companies sued. This week, Eightfold gets served over secret AI scores and “responsible AI” that doesn’t feel very legal. Randstad says everything’s great while 40% of workers grab second jobs. Davos CEOs predict job losses, preach adaptation, and pass the mess to government. Trust is broken. Reality is optional. Buckle up.
Chad Sowash
Jan 30


Stop Blaming AI w/ Allie Kelly
Is AI really killing white-collar jobs or is that just the excuse?
The Chad & Cheese sit down with Allie Kelly of Business Insider to break down layoffs, hiring freezes, disappearing entry-level roles, and why interest rates, tariffs, and Fed policy, not robots, are doing the real damage. If you’ve been told "AI did it," this episode hits different.
Chad Sowash
Jan 27


Phenom Shops, OpenAI Jobs, & Boomband Launches
Euro Chad is back and HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast is firing on all cylinders.
This week, Chad & Cheese tear into OpenAI chasing ads and $500K salaries, Phenom shopping for AI relevance, Meta quietly ghosting the Metaverse, and Jeff Taylor re-entering the job board arena. Add Delta’s $1.3B profit-sharing flex, Canada’s political mic drop, and AI skepticism galore. Buckle up.
Chad Sowash
Jan 23


Monster in the Making: Jeff Taylor, Big Bets and Next Boom
Jeff Taylor helped invent job boards… then watched them break. From DJ booths to Monster, Super Bowl ads ranked “worst ever,” missed billions, dodging LinkedIn regrets, getting humbled by Zuckerberg, and surviving Ray Dalio’s corporate Fight Club. Jeff’s back with BoomBand to fix resumes, job postings, and hiring itself. Again. 🎤
Chad Sowash
Jan 20


Indeed Combats Hot Resume Injections
The gang covers Indeed, LinkedIn, Artisan and ChatGPT news.
Joel Cheesman
Jan 16


Human Renaissance with Jim Kukral
AI didn’t kill creativity — it buried it under AI slop. Jim Kukral joins Chad & Cheese to rip into Coke’s AI ads, the coming “Chipotle Effect,” and why humanity’s last unfair advantage is being human. Jim even quit his job to throw wild, screen-free boat parties on Lake Erie. Are we headed for a Human Renaissance… or trapped in our digital cages?
Chad Sowash
Jan 13


2026 Predictions Show
It’s prediction season — and chaos season. Chad, Cheese, and Lieven review how wrong (and occasionally right) 2025 predictions were, then unleash bold 2026 calls: AI eating jobs, agencies bleeding out, Indeed tightening control, robots going physical, and authenticity getting faker than ever. Predictions are never wrong… they just haven’t happened yet.
Chad Sowash
Jan 9


Marketing's Blind Spot with Zoom's CMO Kim Storin
Chad & Joel go deep with Kim Storin, CMO of Zoom, on brand, AI, and why marketing lost its soul chasing MQLs. Challenger mindset, Bowen Yang, human-in-the-loop AI, CFO wrangling, and why trust beats demand gen. If you think marketing, recruiting, and employer brand are separate… this episode will hurt (in a good way).
Chad Sowash
Jan 6


2025 Wrap-Up Show
2025 didn’t just rattle HR. Nope, it ripped the curtain down and set it on fire. Job boards hoarded hiring data, HR tech rivals flirted with espionage, PE bled legacy platforms dry, and founders played chess while workers paid. Add AI ghosting resumes, Slack DMs as evidence, LinkedIn as a minefield, and recruiters stuck in the blast zone. Pass the popcorn. 🍿
Chad Sowash
Jan 2
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