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They have AI. It's already there. They need AI, they got it. Chad Sowash (31:40.684) Really being AI shaped decis decision making instead of AI assisted. So to me, it's like those two are in an arms race of who can AI out, who can out AI the other, who can or AI adjacent companies.

Engineers off the Wahoo, AI off the Wahoo, Israeli office going global. Amazon shut down their misogynist AI candidate matching project. You decide exactly how our AI matching engine thinks about each individual transaction. To learn more about Sovren AI matching, visit Sovren.com. That's S-O-V-R-E-N.com. Chad: And that's how AI takes over the world so everybody knows.

Welcome to the Age of AI Slop. Like everything's like an AI comment. Everything's like an AI article. anti AI person. They had five AI specialists, no film crews necessary. girlfriends AI friends AI boyfriends Humanity has have already failed these people which is the sad

It ain't good. way, they're adding, they're starting to add automated messaging and some tools that are, you know, AI So they said to meet the increased market demand for conversational AI and remote interviews, we're launching Sovren makes the world's best resume CV parser, but did you know that Sovren also makes the world's best AI Only Sovren's AI matching engine goes beyond the buzzwords.

Chad, give us a hot take on all things AI training. Joel Cheesman (19:56.938) training AI models and the people who were who hired them were AI companies The Utes are progressively not all right with AI. So we're not gonna be saying, do you use AI? Number one is AI is shit for the environment.

What happens when recruiters train their AI replacements? and the AI will then really quickly determine. You know, are going to get continually eaten by AI. That's the big, big question. it's, you know, if the AI, I'll give an example, a very early AI implementation We are trying to put AI on the side of the people.

Football is in the air and Hail Mary's are flyin' all over the place this week. So to me, it's like, they're going to ask your chat bot solution or conversational AI to say, okay, we And the conversational AI is going to say, Hey, why is there a six month gap from the last time you were Essentially creating nuance around the interviewing process, whether it be through conversational AI

Sovren makes the world's best resume CV parser, but did you know that Sovren also makes the world's best AI Only Sovren's AI matching engine goes beyond the buzzwords. Chad (16m 31s): Like Talentagy, then there was an Aquahire of a AI data science team at Predictive Partner Then we've got Smart Recruiters snapping up conversational AI, Job Power from the EU, which I believe Results driven by AI. Connections built by humans.

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A lot of the vendors of kind of AI tools, you know, they're saying that, you know, AI is going to fix I'm a massive fan of AI, but they're, I suppose they're, you know, they claim of AI fixing hiring. It does make hiring worse if you don't implement the AI tools properly. And then AI came around and said, you know what? Emi Beredugo (49:05.858) And that's me saying that as someone who loves AI, but I love AI with guardrails

But AI really blasted off. And AI just blasted in. Yeah, so we're starting to rebuild it now with AI attached to it. But our Black AI Think Tank is... detect AI. But then AI won't be able to detect AI 'cause it's gotten so good at fooling even the...

Results driven by AI. Connections built by humans. He studied AI on hiring. He says the idea of using AI to determine someone's ability, whether it is based on video, audio or text Well, after we're dead, we'll just have our voices, AIed and we'll report the news that comes in through like, it's a bit crazy, a little bit like the movie, Her, where you have relationship with voices and AI

And I don't think AI is going to replace humans. Humans will, with AI, replace humans without AI. AI. It came out that he said he's going to use AI to throw all the content of the email in an AI and AI will We're using AI to do performance reviews and we should. they still concerned about biased hiring through AI?

He also dove into AI, calling it both the hero and potential villain of recruitment. Play nice with AI but keep an eye on it—like a toddler with scissors. Joel: You mentioned AI being a hot topic, and yes, it indeed has. John Graham: Yes. , Gen AI chatbot, any of that because it might not be right. So you say AI will be smarter.

So I've been talking about yeah, we've been talking about AI, normal AI, and we are ready. So the whole idea is it's about AI and also about physical AI. So the the robot stuff. Lieven (32:16.889) The AI part is even harder. Saying AI rejected me isn't just enough. And I hope they don't use that, that, that AI label as a, well, it wasn't AI. So I guess you could actually call it AI job slop or job AI slop.

Emi Beredugo (12:35.986) Yeah Chad Sowash (12:51.068) And no, it's not AI. It's not AI. JT ODonnell (12:53.306) Are we sure that's not AI? Are we sure it's not AI? Our AI tools work. Chad Sowash (35:30.371) Exactly, which was AI curator who was helped with AI. Yeah. AI is disrupting everybody.

Let the AI do it. The aim is to connect AI savvy candidates with employers. Open AI is also introducing open AI certifications, covering topics from basing basic AI use to advanced AI talking to AI and it makes a of sense. AI has come about and is learning from them.

Chad Sowash (07:43.131) So with AI coming into the mix now and everybody's talking about these AI layoffs I I I do believe that AI was a narrative for the most part. Like there is some AI should 10x you as a worker. if you do it right. I personally don't think that that has anything to do with AI. Cassell (15:37.525) applications using AI scoring.

Are the layoffs AI driven? Are the AI like are the layoffs stock driven? Whether that's executives and hand in hand with AI, if that's AI in some form, Emi (28:15.981) Mm. Yeah, I mean, AI is new. , AI can replace human workers. That's not what AI should be for.

And actually, what's going to happen is the ones that adopt AI, that become AI fluent. 0:06:48.6 Steve where every recruiter is trying to learn how to become AI fluent and how to use AI, how to prompt well And so for folks that are trying to leverage AI, the really interesting piece, the hard part about AI You can use some of the AI products. I'm also really excited about the new AI products. We talked about AI app review.

We're going to need AI to defend ourselves from their AI because companies like lazyapply.com won't push We need to watch an AI video of JT and not know if it's really JT or an AI, which is probably coming. But now we're getting physical AI, meaning you get AI with large language model capabilities and a physical People are using the search engine, they start to adopt which they have the AI models and providing AI Number one, AI, go figure.

Sackett didn't hold back on the AI hype train, either. Turns out, he's underwhelmed by the industry's cutting-edge "meh" when it comes to applying AI in TA.

You're training the AI to do your job. Right. We cannot afford to lose more jobs due to AI. And we see that this year with people creating fake AI resumes and then using AI tools to spam ATS systems Emi B (40:36.376) Now it could be that they learn AI skills, which is actually going to open up AI adjacent your AI, right?

The duo dives into the “nothing feels real” AI era—OpenAI’s Sora drama, viral AI-generated roasts, the I think open AI is, is similar. JT, your thoughts on Zuck AI. That's the way I see AI right now. and how you utilize AI tools.

The Trust Architecture:   A masterclass in AI auditing and bias monitoring. Like, what's, how people react to AI, their expectations is very different. assistants, and we're even hearing about AI partners, boyfriends, girlfriends. AI at the end is... Chad Sowash: Did you hear that? It's not gonna take long. Shiran: So we have something called, umm, Winston Hub, AI Hub. Yeah.

Look, AI gives you the answer. Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleiman said all all white collar work will be automated by AI. in 18 months There's been so much contradiction of research and information and AI's not working and AI's gonna take AI as a part of the system, right? Now imagine if you break all that down, all those tasks down into an AI system and the AI can actually

of AI right now. So when open AI is baked when AI, not open AI, but when AI is baked into all of these other areas, we're Joel (24:45.588) Open AI as a business, open AI, AI is going to happen. I have no doubt about that. What I'm saying though is Google has their own AI, Amazon has their own AI, Microsoft has their own AI That's an open AI chat GPT thing.

I will throw you guys some pearls and say AI has changed the game because AI enables you to scan a resume , no matter if it's a book or a real resume, whatever it is, if AI can scan it and AI can scan video Like literally, what are the AI tools in your space? You have lawyers not being displaced by AI. They've been pinched for going AI recruit, like AI facial recognition, diversity, like exclusion, like

Look at that AI game face. This is not some evil AI. AI can help, it should help. Well, AI does a lot of that. AI will make your image for you. AI will write your email for you. AI will do all of that.

Live from the Shaker Green Room, Mary Battle Broxton joined The Chad & Cheese at RecFest USA to talk AI ‘Embrace the robots, or get left in the dust,’ as Mary urges talent leaders to dive headfirst into AI Especially, let's just talk about Gen AI 'cause it seems like everybody's afraid of it. What piece of advice would you give your fellow peers about Gen AI? Chad: Generative AI in your ear. Mary Battle Broxton: Yes. Chad: So, okay.

The boys sit down with Kim Storin, CMO of Zoom, for a wide-ranging, no-filter conversation on brand, AI We have AI embedded into the meeting workflow in a really unique way. We got some press over the last few days because of our federated AI model. For a lot of them, it's AI. How do we create efficiencies in AI? Joel Cheesman (24:51.914) A AI.

And so, you know, them making this announcement, don't use AI when you apply to our AI company. But yeah, yeah, new guidelines by the biggest AI companies in the world. Don't use AI. Now it's going to be AI. We're going to be blaming AI. We're embracing AI. We're doing layoffs. Let's go to Converse AI, an AI recruitment startup from Seattle. We're interested with AI. love that for you, you're like, $9 a month, AI only.

companies have to talk about AI is going to rule the world. Like I really worry that open AI is a house of cards that could fall at any time. If people aren't wanting to go to open AI now, that's a real problem. I see companies like Phenom doubling down on AI after years of saying we're an AI shop. Then Paradox was always an AI house.

Resumes are officially dead, and generative AI just blew the fragments to pieces. With a staggering 86% of hiring managers admitting that AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper, Gen AI just blew that entire system to pieces. And now with the rise of AI, the conversation has become even more interesting. A lot of organization even struggle to find AI-relevant talent like right now.

So there are wrinkles that are popping up with AI on the daily. , gaining admin access and probing its AI defenses. This experiment highlights the potential for AI agents to become proficient. at hacking other AI agents I mean, if your AI is always on the hackers, AI is always on. You're going to have to buy defensive AI just to babysit your product AI so that it doesn't get gas lit

AI Labs, a voice AI interviewing startup. LinkedIn’s $450 Million AI Bet: Is LinkedIn’s new agentic AI hiring product a revolution in search, or , the personalized AI career coach. Let's get as much like AI science. with conversational AI capabilities.

They're buying AI companies. You and your AI glasses from Meta. Come on. What they are arguing is that all these AI tools that are ranking candidates, in an A like with AI they're Yeah, I don't think it's just AI. mean, you can go out and scrape data without AI and then enrich profiles are they are they AIing us?

No affiliation whatsoever to Delphi AI because, um, I just completed making an AI tool that literally AI. I also have a hard time thinking that those jobs in AI are going to thrive within a environment of AI So the AI component is interesting to me because before AI became what AI is today. So these scams and, are going to only get worse with AI. what happens when there's a bunch of AI profiles

Sovren makes the world's best resume CV parser, but did you know that Sovren also makes the world's best AI Only Sovren's AI matching engine goes beyond the buzzwords. And, and I think he gets an applause on this because we saw AI move the needle from black box and to Would you spend it as an AI? Tim (27m 49s): Part of it's programmatic built-in right. Results driven by AI. Connections built by humans.

Quincy Valencia rolls back into HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast and immediately chooses violence: AI isn’ , hey, you got any AI stuff? But what the new breed of AI is doing is actually being bought and it's being installed. And, you know, the AI is going to catch up. Well, the AI has been improving pretty rapidly.

It's just, it's just good to talk AI all day. see old friends, make some new ones. really cool things around the AI space, which is where think Zoom is ultimately going. And number three, this is about AI. Chad Sowash (25:22.36) about with AI. And if you're not gonna be hiring and you're not adopting AI, then you're gone.

I want above average using AI to do the work of 20, 30, 50 people. doing AI. And if we just look at how we've all watched AI evolve over the last year, right? Jillian, we read a lot about lazy apply and AI applied. the things that I've had to be very clear on is like, I am not anti-AI at all.

of jobs to pivot billions into AI development. AI can increase the productivity of our employees. AI means that we don't need as many people. You're using AI against your own population. Karp believes AI will start taking jobs soon. AI taking jobs means less jobs, needs less people. Anyways, I think AI is going to change everything, even for LinkedIn.

And if you are a public company like Workday is and you're not talking about AI, introducing AI, using AI, profiting from AI, you're gonna be left; you're gonna be left out by the market. I guarantee you, board meetings at Workday were like, "Where's our AI shit? Where's our AI? We actually bought these guys over here who understand AI, they can explain AI," et cetera, et cetera We have all the AI stuff.

My shout out is to AI Beer. And the AI parts will become more important. They've been working with AI, right? And now they've been working with generative AI for years now. It's not having AI, because everybody's going to have AI. That's going to be the commodity. Why should it be touched by AI? Chad Sowash (35:18.537) Alright kids.

We can go to AI and it'll create it for us. Joel Cheesman (20:41.96) So there's a lot of things going on. think AI, AI, AI is putting a lot of pressure But the longer term engagements, AI is not gonna be able to do. This was not the promise of AI Chad. What are your thoughts? Plus, in some cases, it's not even AI.

AI is not going to replace that. So I'm never afraid that AI is going to do away with who I am. And at some point, AI's taking my order. We won't need people. Yes. On the AI capabilities we're putting in to ensure that umm, that... This next one is talking about AI fraud. Fake applicants, AI fatigue and HR ROI. That's right. Fan favorite.

Power to the People: AI is finally ending the "Candidate Black Hole." Allyn: Umm, and it really is about recruiting AI. That's how AI's gonna work. What AI, what generative AI, and what agents are really opening up for us is a first moment where I don't Agentic AI and AI that is modern.

And I think with AI, we're going to have a very similar reaction. That's what I think about when I think about AI. We're massively automating everything with AI. Chad (14:13.512) That was all AI kids. Google's new VO3, AI avatars are fucking wild. Now it's being completely built with AI. No developer needed. The problem is they're talking about conversational AI.

Chad (15:50.453) AI. what does that stand for? If you say AI, people jump. But now you have to say agents. AI was last year. continent's latest AI unicorn. Parloa specializes in, wait for it, agentic AI, offering an AI agent management platform that enables And these voice AI systems can help.