You want to make sure that you don't have a car full of terrorists driving up to the airport... It's a dot co, which 10 years ago you saw a lot of, you don't see a lot of it anymore, it's all io and ai behavioral data, that gives you all the geodata to do any number of use cases and to be, frankly, the AI look like if apprentice programs get hollowed out because your senior engineers are just using some AI Sticky apps being the actual lifestyle app, process automation, AI load balancing, some of the shit that

Anyway, they're AI-based recruitment platform terms were not disclosed. roles by sourcing candidates actively looking to change jobs and passive candidates using Talenya's AI The company uses AI to power its job simulation platform to help recruiters access underutilized but All right Chad, for three days last month, 1000 food service workers at San Francisco Airport went on Chad, what's your take on robotic baristas at San Francisco Airport?

We want nothing fancy, no machine learning, no ai. What makes yours different than all of those, other than not having all the acronyms, ai, ml, nlp, et website to appeal to keywords of these rogue hiring managers who want like, data driven solutions without AI So all the machine learning and AI that we're not doing, which sounds like a negative, is actually, in No ai, no ml, no n l p. Library of interviews.

You have things like chat bots and AI on there for a couple of years. AI's not necessarily in the same bucket as those two, because, in theory, AI could help with chatbox and CRM, but I'm not sure how much real AI there is in those at the moment. So, I just know it's a bit better than AI. I think some of these things will be reborn. You've also got AI and big data talent identification.

Because today DEI is the new AI. Everybody has it. Everybody wants it, right? right now, is that the AI where we can ask somebody, Hey, Torin, are you black? But the AI has enough data. We can't ask that stuff, but the AI already knows it and then they're going to assume. It's not a one-off, it's not a piece of tech, it's not AI. Right? Chad (21m 46s): Layers.

FN Meka is an AI generated rapper and already has 500,000 monthly Spotify listeners and followers. From the lyrics to the chords and tempo underpinning the music is all AI generated. Chad (16m 8s): That being said, do we really need AI in this segment? They push AI a lot. Adding AI into this conversation seems unnecessary and an added layer of perspective bias, not to mention I might've been on board if they weren't wasting course and development dollars on AI.

We talk AI airbrushing the talent market, recruiters ghosted by robots, and why Jeff almost bought a guest after guest after guest that is tweaking and doing middleware and reinventing this and putting AI I'm going to put it through AI and they make this. Joel (44:24.78) Yep. Uh-huh. Jeff Taylor (46:21.294) Right, but what's happening is phase one, phase two, we're getting a bunch of AI That's an absolute disaster in using AI that can actually, it's both semantic and eugenic ways that it's

. 💬 Plus: performance reviews, remote work, AI hype, why plumbers should earn more than liberal arts And in many cases, it is the technically right, I'm doing air quotes, everyone listening. We've gone through a pandemic, AI is all the rage. So I think there's, application challenges like that. think when we look at things like AI, it feels

And again, As we start to move toward AI and talking about taking jobs and those types of things, we Chad (21:47.22) Yeah, and big, big thanks to sponsors, Daxter, Poetry Solutions Driven, Ashby, Gigged .ai Joel (31:58.938) All right, Chad, per a recent article by Jim the Indeed Whisperer Durbin for AIM Group Now, until generative AI and open AI and GPT, a lot of Google's results were, you guessed it, paid results

I'm sorry, more AI, less humans. Liran: Exactly, exactly. And this was an amazing journey on how you develop an AI in that type of system. AI in the HR space. Because AI is like a baby that you're trying to teach, right? Those kind of things by AI eventually will be sold.

And now, we have the same level of hype, chaos, and craziness around how AI is going to change the rest So I'm kind of optimistic, even though there's so much hype about all of this crap with AI, I do think And if we had a AI auto, whatever, that was kind, could speak 25 languages or 55 languages, could do Gerry Crispin: There was a professor, I think, early on in the first day who was talking about AI... Chad: He'll be in the Airstream. [laughter] Joel: And how many hats do you own?

on the roadmap, will it be sort of where are you on some of those buzz terms around automation and AI Euan (23m 50s): So I didn't mention AI because I feel like it's, everyone mentions, like you said, so we're leaving AI out of a conversation, but in terms of automation on AI, the things that we are looking at doing is all around scheduling is the only thing that we really want to be doing AI around at the under, also is making some tremendous strides and those guys are really, they're ahead in terms of AI

that's the whole point, is to build that next generation of leaders by showing them data, finance, AI They're talking about getting AI and aspects, and we're not rewarded for those. Maybe some of these AI sourcing tools will take some of the pressure off. engaging the individuals that you've already bought because Joel Cheesman (34:24.38) conversational AI

So you have a chat GPT, I open AI, you have Gemini, Google, you have all the others. Uh, so, so the first thing is always the question we talk about AI automation. He gave a great presentation about how AI is impacting already our business. Uh, so, so the first thing is always the question we talk about AI automation. He gave a great presentation about how AI is impacting already our business.

They would presume that we were using AI to evaluate candidates and it would start this conversation really focus on messaging because at the end of the day as you've just said, people were looking at AI Joel: Does the AI still redirect? Teddy Chestnut: 100%. Yeah. You can also... If you know him as ai, then that still works.

price as flat as a pumpkin pie crust, and ZipRecruiter's epic dive, complete with CFO fire sales and an AI So AI, I went out to chat GPT and I said, define jive turkey for me. so it, so it's slang popularized Chad (11:56.433) As you all remember, reported by the AIM group earlier this month, ZipRecurters revenues There's no way in hell Zip's AI powered savior, Phil, can save ZipRecruiter from me giving them a jive It's it's lighting up the the airwaves.

Give us your take on AI automation, how that's gonna impact the business. Fraser Patterson: Yeah I mean, we've seen a huge proliferation of AI across media, banking, healthcare That's how you train on a large language model to power an AI. There's no data in construction. itself is not naturally gonna produce information that can help train and refine a language model and AI I'm not saying that I would die for fiduciary duty to entertain all of that along the way, but we're aiming

and then you know we've evolved quite a bit and there are solutions out there I mean conversational Ai saving time saving recruiter's time is providing expertise it's showing value in Roi conversational ai It's like you're using and you know conversational ai to support and assist in all the work that you're Madeline Laurano And you've got you've got that support system with you and um" you know these areas ai

Joel: Please tell me you're a .com and not .ai... Jeanette: We're a .com. Joel: Okay. Intelligent [crosstalk 00:05:05] automation with the buzzwords of AI as well. Chad: Oh, instead of AI... Okay, I got ya. Okay, I'm going to say a buzzword, but a whole AI data science, because we work with our customers. Joel: But it's still a AI, right? Jeanette: Yeah. What's interesting is that we focus on, again...

Something that comes to my mind is the whole chat bot, conversational AI phenomenon. That was so to the conversational AI component, I actually like that, that I don't see that as a threat when every aspect of your candidate experience is driven, is you're interfacing with a conversational AI You can't build a relationship with a conversational AI. And in that regard with regard to investing in conversational AI and those things, to be able to grow

Once you have that, you already have a lot of, you know, sophisticated ai matching and other technology And then, you know, we have a lot of AI and other people so we can do. leaders, all over the place, they're sick and tired of hearing all of these platforms that were boasting AI If it is DEI, let alone AI, but you guys also have diversity hiring on the website. then the third thing is actually sourcing and finding those candidates and, you know, we have amazing AI

Another discussion I would like to force is around AI, efficiencies and being able to get rid of a lot that we haven't had the ability to purchase yet and some of that's due to budget, is like one of the AI chat and AI features. Chad (23m 50s): Conversational AI. Julia (23m 51s): Yep. But to have some of that conversational AI to get at the application questions and integrate in, so that

Maureen Wiley Clough (14:49.166) Just brilliant. mean, especially in the age of AI where everything is This combination values X AI at $80 billion and X at $33 billion. He bought it for $44 billion. What are your thoughts on the X X AI Twitter deal? How many AI platforms are there now? Joel (01:00:01.648) He needs to go work on AI stuff or launch rockets. because I think, I think Tesla

We heard about chat bots and AI and whatnot. Tony: But that's not necessarily AI to me. Joel: We throw AI around I think personally, too loosely. And then AI can start to work from there. If the learning's not there then AI just can't happen. Tony: AI.

Going mobile, going AI. This to me is just another step to say, "We're gonna continue to roll out AI features. We have 200 employees, engineers, working on AI. They are real AI, white hat AI. Chad: White hat AI. Was it white hat, like white AI, black AI.

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joined today by newly acquired, Opening.io founder, Andreea Wade, but currently potfolio director of AI Chad: Joel just mentioned Andreea, that you are the AI, ML portfolio manager. Okay. I get very interested in data and AI and ML. And then the MD of Microsoft here picked four AI startups to meet Peggy. Al, I'm a big fan of the prospect and we have talked about AI and ML over the years and matching.

We use AI to match those work opportunities. They basically, ee use AI to curate and match that talent to their jobs. So we see this component that is bigger than just being able to provide the next generation AI platform Am I like, you might have some different tech and you throw out ai, but essentially you're calling on Save your 3D resume, your ai, your self sourcing marketplace for another day.

Clearly, AI's evil hand at work. Chad, your thoughts on all things Joe, this week. So this is just the beginning, and a lot of these AI companies are saying, well they're using the impersonators Now on the AI, yeah, strap on, buckle up, bend over, whatever you wanna use. Chad: Yeah. This comes after SI was discovered publishing pieces under fake author names, speaking of naughty AI, and profile images that were generated by AI for the quote-unquote authors.

Is that your consensus or do you believe that all these AI companies are legit? Susan: Yeah, I think a lot of AI is BS truthfully. I think AI is a legit topic. I think it's worth talking about. I do think that there's a lot of value in AI as it relates to automation of process. There's so many "AI" types of organizations that are out there.

You decide exactly how our AI matching engine thinks about each individual transaction. To learn more about Sovren AI Matching, visit sovren.com. That's S-O-V-R-E-N dot com. Chad: You think Sovren's matching engine can run chat bot, too, with their AI? Their AI could do chat bots as well? Will it become more AI focused and automated in the future?

AI is like... No one is going to pay for human beings to talk to people. Forget about it. Chad: And there's gonna be some naughty AI coming. You know that's gonna be happening. There's gonna be even more naughty AI. Joel: I have no doubt.

On this week's podcast, Eightfold AI and Beamery play dueling valuations, following some massive funding Only Sovren's AI matching engine goes beyond the buzzwords. Every, every fucking segment wants to throw AI in there. When you are going into pitch meetings for funding, use AI all over the place. AI is a commodity. Okay.

I'm always amazed at how, how general conversations aren't happening with, with HR at the table, uh, air Chad (15:47.264) automation because everybody's talking about AI. That's all well and good. Um, whether it's RPA AI, just process automation in itself. There's just too many things going on in the world, including AI, including all the other automations

My shout out goes to my 14 year old son, Jan Julius van Ibenuizen, who created an AI chatbot. ask something about legislation to Belgian labor law and it will know about it because it's an open AI Joel (32:55.504) about AI anyway with Woody Harrelson. No, when he tries on the outfit. Chad (33:05.953) Stop taking those walks and enjoying the nice fresh air. How is AI going to impact the world of work and how can we react? Okay, we are into staffing.

AI. I wanna know what unethical AI is. I don't think there's any independent AI program or business that I know of. I know what a car engine is and an airplane engine, but a nudge engine. was quote: "Paycheck's voice assist allows users to run handsfree payroll through Google assistant AI adjustments, reviewing totals and submitting payroll for processing through a robust and resilient AI

So you mentioned the military, you loved this story about AI versus fighter pilots in the air force. Chad (29m 23s): Fucking DARPA dude, we've talked about AI and we've talked about where we can see AI They will do the best job in being able in a practical sense, use AI. And in this case, this is out of business insider, a US Air Force F16 pilot, just battled AI in five An expert commentator over at DARPA said that the AI algorithm demonstrated superhuman aiming ability

AI is going to be a major fun time for us to talk about startups till these agencies that are still around Joel: It ain't in background checks. It ain't in background checks. The platform utilizes AI and ML, well, we haven't talked about ML in years, to match companies with suitable There's no mention of generative AI, which I thought was odd, although cool at the same time, AI, ML. are starting to see a convergence of technology, and we're going to see more of that with generative AI

AND how AI agents will reshape team dynamics faster than your CEO can say “reorg”. Nobody wants to talk to the person next to them at the airport. The problem is, is it actually created something called the airport problem, or I call it the airport And as AI becomes more prevalent in our work days, we start unlocking efficiencies and inevitably the staff starts to shrink. mean, could AI be the final ingredient to defusing teams where everybody's talking

what the hell this Veritone thing is, especially this quote unquote you know, "operating system for AI AI powered talent acquisition automation platform, CEIPAL has raised $16.5 dollars in its Series B around At their new "workplace" that's workplace in air quotes, engineers go on quests that challenge them to social status, creating an experience gap, by unbundling professional development from employment we aim

AI so human, you'll want to take it to dinner. Sovren makes the world's best resume CV parser, but did you know that Sovren also makes the world's best AI Only Sovren's AI matching engine goes beyond the buzzwords. What about conversational AI/chat bots? How are you?

We've heard automation, AI, blah, blah, blah, it's all over the place. Right? They're gonna look at trying to cut heads using automation and AI.

PathMotion's sophisticated AI powered discussion platform makes it easy for organizations to connect Sovren based in Texas delivers a similar AI software to Textkernel will boost the Dutch firms position , we're talking about making that data available so that it can be consumed by matching engines, by AI And now you can do whatever you want with them based using our AI and we can help find people for you Peter (36m 19s): Got AI so it must be magic obviously.

better candidate experience, being more conversational on our career sites; efficiency in terms of using AI

If the AI is fake and they're not eating their own dog food, that's a little bit alarming. Like we've talked about AI's being replaced by diversity and inclusion. The hot terminology is moving away from AI? Chad: Yeah ... Like I think people are hopefully getting to that point as opposed to just I need to check off AI in Chad: Yeah and that RFP, they were asking if we have AI.

Joel: What's your definition of AI? So I think that's where we're seeing a lot of AI come into it. Has it really hit mainstream yet? Joel: Give me some AI. I don't know what that is, but give it to me. Chad: Put some AI on that. Chad: I'll have some fries with AI on top.

They still need food, warm clothes, medical aid. Beamery says it's AI powered talent platform uses ethical AI to help companies plan for business needs Chad (15m 60s): Yeah, can we stop the ethical AI bullshit? My God, it's just, please stop it. Okay. Joel (33m 23s): Just like companies, who are saying AI are soon going to have to face the music with If they keep saying they're AI and they're not really.

Like we predicted, AI is gonna create so many more opportunities. me is, my company is in Chicago, but I have a van and I just travel the country and set up shop at Airbnbs work close to the office, but I do, like you said, I go to Portugal, work out of my place there, or an Airbnb

Two new startups land on the scene and promise more AI matching goodness. Chad: AI. IO. Joel: So, Woo.io - Very similar. Now, they tie this in with AI and it's smart, and blah, blah, blah. It's the same thing wrapped in a different AI package. But the problem still exists in my mind. And all they're doing is slapping AI onto it. That's really it.

Joel (08:48.91) We talk a lot about the threats to Google and their market share and perplexity and AI Those are provided by our friends at Air and App. Bourbon barrel aged syrup. more tasks, 25 % faster, and produced outputs 40 % higher in quality compared to those not using the AI What is AI going to like, how do I adapt? How do I learn how to like survive in this world? Joel (49:35.38) All right, Chad, until we have the AI look like real people, I guess OnlyFans will continue