So we completely automate the delivery of their jobs, manage the budget. Chad (03:51.525) Mm-hmm. Alex Fourlis (04:58.418) in terms of automation and programmatic advertising, the North American market

Uncommon Automation helps recruiters cut their sourcing time by 75%. Chad: Close, it's called automation. It's simple actually. Joel: And don't forget, you can connect your email and Uncommon will provide automated We talk a lot about on the show automation and sourcing automation. Joel: The question I guess is your thoughts on the automation trend.

want to get back to something you said earlier about maybe we don't need four, we'll have three, but automation Joel: All the automated stuff that's gonna go away. Chad: That's the admin. Yeah. The routine.

parsing, application filtering, automated screening, et cetera. That there are just aspects, tasks in this job that can be automated. You'd submit a resume to a company, you'd never hear back from them, maybe an automated thank you for Joel: Thanks to chatbots, thanks to messaging, sort of automated conversations They set up an automated process to prescreen and interview the person, that's also unbiased, by the

So your sales staff, your customer service staff, this is all going to be automated by a company called Auto new vo now talent.com jobs, careers, job.com ad Zuna. mentioned a few, apparently there are 10,000 And by the way, because of the PR factor, I don't see a lot of automation in power plants that are nuclear Like it's all automated. there's going to be some, some splaining to do, when the public, yeah, Homer

Ben: So we saw the problem as being big enough that we wanted to build some technology to automate the And yeah, the employer makes the determination, so we're automating something that's been done manually But we actually on our end, employ kind of a mix of both automated and human intelligence. So it's a mix of both automation and having a real person confirm that these subjects or these articles And I think if we were talking about a technology like Waze, if there was a fully automated, here's how

They basically kind of automate the onboarding process. They put video in and all that shit. And I think they will do that through automation, Andy Jassy, a lot of those things.

launched a new digital version of our product and we are now experiencing growth due to that need for automated And also I think that the need for automated interviews focusing our soft skills has become a new need Then the automated two way situation where you can sort of have a much, much more, I believe, greater did with an ETS called Tintae just recently, which is a really nice platform in Sweden, focusing on automated So now we can actually see the results of the first stages of automated processes in a sort of a long

So right now, if you're, you better be remote, automation focused, or diversity focused, RAD. So they got close has landed $4.2 million to help companies automate parts of the interview process. Once a company engages with a candidate, Humanly automates repetitive conversations at the top of the In the automation space. So to me, there are, there are the riding, the right wave. Chad (29m 12s): We talked last week about recruitment automation and there's been a discussion.

Chad: He is predicting that automation becomes table stakes. Usually by automating chores like interview scheduling, so on, so forth. Adding automation to your workflow. They want more automation, more tech. It's automate shit and let me focus on this stuff that's more important.

everything that WorkLLama does, like our talent pulling capabilities, our shortlisting capabilities, our automation

Joel: Some experts from the article wonder if automation can ease some of the burden I don't see people getting on planes that are automated anytime soon. Although, you could argue that almost every plane is automated. They won't be building their own text automation system." Yeah, because they bought you. I think the next argument will be text versus automation, chatbots, AI, et cetera.

Chad: Well, this is two aspects that they talk about, Monitoring tools and automated decision making On the, not just the monitoring, but the automated decision making. Because again, if you're making that many decisions through automation, and they are for all those different And yes, you can call it automation over AI, but they don't... applications to make a hire and we can drop that from 20 to 10, that's real money saved and so if you automate

It's like saying in 1910, automobile adoption accelerated in and survey respondents report getting to We acquired interview planners, intelligent scheduling automation to help teams fast track hiring and With this new addition, we bring powerful scheduling automation to the rest of Gem's powered platform But interview scheduling seems to be the place everyone starts with process automation. Why? So Jim has added an ATS AI process automation, they're partnering with point solutions like happy dance

nicer, but fundamentally it's a pretty poor experience and you're not eliminating any waste you're just automating It's automating a poor process. Jerry (22m 55s): Actually what doesn't work is the process in the first place, just, don't just automate the process that doesn't work, actually cups take a step back, eliminate waste, and then automate. Don't automate what is a manual process, take a step back, eliminate then automate.

Joel: Don't you think they're just waiting for the moment that they can just automate everything. And I think that Amazon is one of those businesses that could almost be completely automated vertically Because the software integrates the, quote, white collar part and the blue collar part is automated by the resources are owned by the 1% who then don't need the 99% to make even more money because they've automated

And anyone else will be filtered out automatically. Everything's automated. have an automated interview scheduling that's been launched this month. There's a chat that it's automatically bringing up notifications from the employer to the candidate. And there's small automations within the statuses that make sure that the candidate is always engaged It could add the media for you automatically.

If you could find a way to automate that, I think that's where semantic comes in. the show, talk a lot about start-ups and vendors that are sort of trying to solve the puzzle of the automated I think you can automate a lot of the non value-added stuff. Chad: Could you argue that automation will make us more human because the grunt work You can't do that, you have to be efficient, so I think automations and efficiencies, if done right,

Meanwhile, Indeed was forced to hit the emergency brakes on their aggressive new automation feature after We are investing heavily and we are moving fast and we are automating stuff. They want, they want more applications. automatically they want more lazy apply stuff because that's They want to auto apply to all kinds of jobs. Levin? Lieven (52:53.218) Mm-hmm. Lieven (53:12.608) Okay, talking about LinkedIn, I always really hated the automate or an AI augment

Now, to your point of, automation now makes it really challenging to like put the gate up and make it more restrictive for people to apply and something like easy apply. makes automated applies that much me to say like the apply process sucks on ATSs, but then give this a nothing burger because of the automation

We wish there was a way to automate these ridiculous podcast episode descriptions, but until then, we'll have to be content with talking about recruitment automation. Most notably this week: Two automated scheduling startups got (additional) funding. I think all they need to do now is slap on Amazon's automated firing software and they don't even need Automated scheduling? It sounds like a feature to me, but maybe this is a fucking product?

Now, it's the automated version. Now interviewing will be automated, pre-screening stuff that'll be automated.

We keep the human, that's you, at the center while Canvas bot is at your side adding automation to your So somewhere, so we're right in the place right now, in an interesting time in automation where, there's High volume side has actually been a really hard problem for us, in automation. Joel: You know, are they automating that process? Shon: Well the first step is, so we're layering in automation.

So in the end, onboarding automation would be a huge time saver just as long as the work in points for So this isn't just automation. It's not just technology. It actually has touch points for people. So whether it was on the fire, the fire sale clearance rack or not, onboarding and offboarding needs automation

Look, last week we talked about RAD, remote, automation and diversity. I think automation is going to thrive in a downturn. Chad (16m 29s): Oh God yes. They're going to go automation. I think diversity is going to suffer in a downturn, but Remote.

And many of the automation based platforms have been installed in other sectors for about a decade or Chad (16m 9s): Well, because they streamline and automate the shit that nobody wants to do. filling a position, they've already filled just two weeks ago, keep the new hire engaged and warm through automated So we'r looking at a new era of tech in automation that is finally being adopted.

Chad: This is the perfect time for those guys to really just bolster automation. Learn from industry thought leaders and see how technology can help them improve, automate, and evolve And I think this underscores, at least the smart money is going to the automation side of the fence. And then the quote from Humanly CEO, Prem Kumar was, "Companies are turning to automation, like never I think most people, I won't say most, but a good number of people are going to choose automation, if

Joel: Everyone was driving a gas automobile, and then EVS came out and everybody said like, "I want some About 35% of US workers believe that their job will become more reliant on workplace automation in the Joel: Additionally, 23% of workers are concerned that automation will replace their jobs in the next Women were found to be less concerned about job displacement due to automation compared to men. They're set to deploy an AI-powered chatbot to automate its drive-through service, powered by national

We talk a lot about on the show in terms of automation. Is automation going to be a part of the product? What are just some of your general senses on that? Yes, automation can be useful, should be used. But how you ethically use it is very important. So nobody says when you, in Entelo, use their automation to send out 50 emails, "This is the Entelo bot So I'm all for technology and intelligence and automation.

On one hand, they want to us AI and big data in order to automate all the boring stuff like scheduling The automation and the personal touch. Until Talkpush. So what we do is, we work at the front of the marketing, of the recruitment funnel, and we automate the

We are an end to end AI recruiting platform, which means that we're automating steps throughout the recruiting We can help with automation and with quality of conversation. 90% of recruiters will tell you they don't have enough time in the day to complete all of their tasks, but with automation we can address that.

solve the wastage and frustration of invoice teams not getting enough qualified applicants by sourcing, automatically And that's why we use the chatbot to bring them into the funnel and have an automated conversation with We've brought in something where we essentially add on an automated follow-up system to the chatbot which What we've done is we've brought in our automated follow-up, which follows up over email and texts over

We got Webb to open-up about everything from automation, how job seekers will apply to jobs in the future mediocre players, and people are starting to be dishonest about the features that they have and calling automation You mentioned automation and commoditization, which I think are things we've talked about on the show So I'm all for automation. I love efficiency. I think that you're going to see new jobs created out of automation and as far as applying to jobs go

Humanly customers use the platform for screening, scheduling, automating, communication, and running says the deal accelerates their re -scaling capabilities with predictive labor market intelligence and automated and the ones that he talked about were temp staffing, retained search, direct hire, and recruitment automation

So when, when we think about analytics, we always think about analytics plus automation, right? And so the, the plus automation is something that, that is, is an evolving process, but that's when we're So if it's set up and again, if you think about the automation component, one of the areas that, that

And it is primarily driven by automation and digitalization processes and what these processes needs are very accurate, matching, very accurate understanding of the data and the process you want to automate PayFit lets you manage that payroll from a web browser, as opposed to some office down the street to automate Automation challenges we're seeing some real exciting stuff. Former Deathmatch that's the Chad and Cheese podcast participant SonicJobs uses robotic processing automation

raised $2.3 million to create human-like digital workers launching artisans like Ava, a sales rep, automating But a lot of companies are gonna start the sales process with this automation solution, and I guess time [automated voice] Joel: Let me get to my notes real quick. Alright, Move Over Paradox.

This is the future of hiring becoming the future of automated conversion. Amazon is automating discovery, collapsing the buyer journey and turning conversation into conversion It has automated the distribution. It's video, so it has to be a video podcast, but then it takes the podcast and automatically clips it

And I think part of that business is is really challenged because with automated apply and companies (32:58.893) programmatically throwing our job all over the place because we are getting killed with automated But the whole like programmatic game is ch is really getting hit hard because of the automated applicant sort of get used to it, you get numb to it. perfect example, when I was in Vegas this week, there's a auto

You should be automating, you should be building tech stacks and you should be bolstering your margins brazen tools for managing virtual and in-person events, creating microsite, enabling live chat and automating The newer tech that's out there today is about automation, it's about quickness, it's about targeting

Talent acquisition automatically either number one or number two of sources of hire generally are employee I, but will it automate and scale? I think it will. Do the founders have experience in this space? So RAD, if you forgot is Remote, Automated and Diversity, and these guys check off automation and they It will automate and scale? Yes. I think GJ is a hundred percent correct.

The Psychology of Adoption:  Why "gradual automation" beats "all-at-once change" every single time in If somebody goes and they, they, they meet the requirements, then boom, they're automatically scheduled So what we see is also within the talent team that it, it becomes much more, you know, there is more automation

That's right, Employ with their "Augmenting AI and Automation with Human Ability: Striking the balance Ultimately, automation is gonna take a lot of this stuff, which I think is, this is the time to move, Automation is gonna continue to happen. So right now is the time for the auto workers to get what's theirs. and you've already been training models for years and you've been training and you have data that's automatically

And your industry more than most, is it, I wouldn't say risk, but more impacted by AI and automation Joel: So help me understand in that environment where all your competition is automating that you guys Joey Lee: No, we actually started some automation. Do you use those as the first source of candidates to go through or do you just automatically post a But innovation within companies where we're already using are automatically gonna have a layback.

This aims to enhance consumer apps and enterprise automation competing with Microsoft and Salesforce, And this was, this was an automated text versus actually having somebody picking up the phone. The automated text worked better. Right?

nineties, then built a background screening company and now I'm in building text messaging and recruiting automation Jonathan (25m 20s): And certainly don't do it in a automated way. So it's a huge opportunity. So it's a checkbox in the RFP rather than a tool that can really automate and help, especially in the (27m 31s): Yeah, gohire.com and it's all about just utilizing texting in what we call is recruiting automation Jonathan (50m 13s): Atom bomb?

Plus: - Automation is going to hit this industry really hard - Recruiters don't care all that much about Joel: Automation, which we have to talk about every week. In this news item, construction workers are looking to be impacted by automation. Joel: Now my take on this is we've always thought about automation either from a Joel: Let's end the show on this news item, which we talked automation.

So if they see that your account is sort of automated and doing stuff, they want to make you scared to use sourcing tools that are automated, they want to make you scared about losing your LinkedIn account But those automated automation tools aren't stupid as well. So pretend to be human. recently put in a limit to a hundred connection requests a week and they look at things like if you're automating

That's you... at the center, while Canvasbot is at your side adding automation to your workflow. When I heard him say that, I was like, "Somebody's got to be automating that," and sure enough, this story comes up that yes, third party apps have been created to help these drivers basically automate I see Amazon going full automation like I had said, with the warehouses, and then the delivery drones Basically, the whole thing's automated and profits are optimized to the fucking roof, for sure.

HR and the technology landscape, we constantly see automation to improve processes, improve compliance Do you say automation is coming in? Talk about how you look at layoffs from your point of view.