A Shout Out to two guys at paradox that agreed to sit down with us and talk chat bots, AI football. Chad (8m 41s): I still think the chat bot versus conversational AI narrative is a bunch of marketing Who knew that you could trademark AI? Loxo did and suck it everybody else so you gotta pay them, pay them the fee if you want to use the AI Results driven by AI. Connections built by humans. Jobvite.

The fuel air explosive that Timothy McVeigh used was equivalent to one and a half tons of dynamite. Joel Cheesman (35:44.988) It's not AI. It's not an AI picture.

Chad (2m 27s): You'd better find something else because this bitch ain't going to fly. We're using one of the AI tools to find people's names and addresses and reaching out to them, right. They're using the job description and they're coming back using particularly the ones that are using AI You send out one of those, one of the AI tools to find people, you still have to convince them to apply Michael, first and foremost, you got to stop calling this advanced AI powered candidate evaluation platform

Number One: Amazon recently canceled an AI recruiting program because it was biased towards men. I mean, Amazon should cancel AI if it's biased against women. I mean, absolutely. Joel: But you're still bullish on AI, I'm hearing? But yeah, I think there are lots of AI that drives automation in the process, for sure. This AI ... is it just me?

actually, which is really cool, not do you just want their tech -- their machine learning and their AI Chad: What they've done is, they've turned AI and machine learning loose Sovren: Sovren AI matching is the most sophisticated matching engine on the You decide exactly how our AI matching engine think about each individual transaction. To learn more about Sovren AI matching, visit sovren.com. That's S-O-V-R-E-N dot com.

They integrated into Microsoft 365, and put AI resources. I mean, clearly Microsoft is... I think more AI tools are coming to LinkedIn. There's this whole government versus AI automation that we've talked about. AI is reading their facial expressions, or voice and what not, and I think it's just going to happen. Users are being cautioned that the app, which allows users to see their "future self" by using AI software

Between mergers and acquisitions, slumbering IPO ambitions and figuring out the whole AI Revolution, Joel: AI once in that whole interview. Chad: I don't think so. Rebecca Carr: Did we not?

The company says it uses AI technology trained on over 50 million career paths and analyzes applicant Utilizing a lot of AI automation, cool stuff. He's going to tell us more about it. And we heavily leveraged AI and machine learning there as well. Joel: So, there's some big companies getting into the AI space, as you well know. Do you guys think that you can out AI Google, knowing that they've turned their guns on the recruiting

Or maybe it's creating an interview process that leverages all of the AI components to help understand I think there's a lot that AI can do and machine learning. You're good at HR tech and everybody's an AI company and- Chad: AI and blockchain- Erik: I think there's going to be four winners within AI. you want to have more than two-way communication, so campaign based communication, you want to put AI

them when any type of movement's happening, just so that they don't fuck things up and shooting an airplane The funding will be used to raise headcount and increase AI functionality. Buy or sell? I also appreciate that AI tools like ChatGPT will make well-crafted text answers a breeze but it'll be And although AI will probably make its way into video as well... Hello, deep fake. Chad: He's back on the air. Lieven: It's my worst nightmare.

company that sources and matches talent and it's unbiased and bring it on all your questions about AI So have it been a home run or yeah, a little bit of an air ball. Angela (15m 38s): And then we got vetted over and over and over by their engineers and by the AI department So we run it through our AI. AI says, call it this job description looks like that people come in, they apply.

So we talk a lot about chat bots if you call them chat bots or conversational AI, you guys have some And there's new technologies all the time that are coming out to aid with this. But I do believe that there will be continued adoption of AI technologies. I think we'll see a reduction in the use of candidate facing AI.

And we have Google AI Fund, which funds AI first companies come in. The shortest version is, it's your team's AI recruiter. Because if you look at AI, a big part of AI is the conversation system itself.

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Joel: And they're really mad about the whole AI thing. Joel: They're calling it, I think, Black AI like Blackhat AI and Whitehat AI or something and how most AI is BS so we're gonna get to the bottom of Sovren's opinion on AI.

Sovren: Sovren AI matching is the most sophisticated matching engine on You decide exactly how our AI matching engine thinks about each individual transaction. To learn more about Sovren AI matching, visit sovren.com. That's S-O-V-R-E-N dot com. Let's get into preferably Caucasians and AI bigots. AI is going to save us from all the bigots," right? Because AI's smarter. It's all-knowing.

We've got AI machine guns, killing people. I mean, did you see the space X lauch yesterday? And you mentioned sort of in the opening, the AI drone machine gun thing, you saw that, right? Joel (14m 2s): The Iranian scientist who was assassinated, apparently AI and machine gun, drone machine Joel (14m 36s): That's AI. Chad (14m 37s): Yeah. 11 shots. Joel (14m 38s): I got nothing. Only Sovren's AI matching engine goes beyond the buzzwords.

But in a letter to employees procured by our friends over at the Aim Group so way to go aim group, the Joel (31m 8s): Chad, FutureFit AI, a New York city-based AI powered career navigation platform provider FutureFit AI says it is the market leader as the navigation layer of workforce development, seamlessly And I put "investment" in air quotes. They're not as hard to get anymore, as long as you're fine putting a dot ai or a dot io at the end of

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So much ai, ml, every fucking acronym that's out there. maybe five, six years ago, walk down the halls and talk to vendors and they'd say we have proprietary ai They're like, well this is insight with the AI and then you talking around nonsense.

AI overall is going to start to aggressively be replacing sourcing and other recruiting tasks. So in today's world where we don't really understand what AI is, right? Chad: So I think AI beyond sourcing becomes something that is more embraced because Or do you think the actually interview can be done and scheduled through AI? These are data companies and to be able to actually apply AI and machine learning and all this other

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Patrick (4m 41s): So our product investments now going forward clearly are aimed at improving candidate Joel (18m 48s): Patrick, we talk a lot on the show about automation and how AI is infiltrating recruiting Patrick (19m 18s): Yeah, so AI is clearly the buzz word in technology today. the necessary amount of technology investment to really consider leading edge development like, like AI and at Circa, you know, I would say we're not kicking off sort of a, of an investment in AI today, but

Sovren: Sovren AI matching is the most sophisticated matching engine on the market because You decide exactly how our AI matching engine thinks, about each individual transaction. Sovren: To learn more about Sovren AI Matching, visit sovern.com. Is it AI versus ... what is this and how does that even have anything to do with Blockchain? From my standpoint, it's all AI, AI, chat bots, chat bots, oh wait a minute. Blockchain.

. - Amazon's AI is a misogynist - Facebook Jobs poaches talent - AND no God, no! So why would Amazon shut down their AI? I mean why would they do that? Chad Sowash: Here's the thing, we're looking for AI to solve all of our ills and that Joel Cheesman: Clearly, we have a long way to go with AI and recruiting because Amazon It'll take a while, but it will get figured out and AI will be, as we believe, a major component to all

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structure, some guidance and some quite frankly some confidence around how to do that is really the aim important here and what I see happening is that we've gone so far to the other end of the chat bots and the AI Sovren: Sovren AI matching is the most sophisticated matching engine on the market because You decide exactly how our AI matching engine thinks, about each individual transaction. Sovren: To learn more about Sovren AI Matching, visit sovern.com.

And then that’s why I think, you know, for example, AI can help us, for example, working with VONQ: how

Sovren makes the world's best resume CV parser, but did you know that Sovren also makes the world's best AI Only Sovren's AI matching engine goes beyond the buzzwords. Post-trip are you still sort of, is it still up in the air? Way to go, McDonald's and then my last shout out is to Delta Airlines, my airline of choice. There was no social media, there was no AI and all this other shit.

this ATS that they're putting in the G-suite versus Cloud Discovery, which seems to be this sort of AI The Cloud Discovery, the sort of AI job matching, we also think is very interesting. So I think they think of that AI machine learning, that cloud discovery as paz componentry that can be Begin to think about some of the really cool things that can be serviced up by some of this kind of AI There's a war at the highest level for AI machine learning matching engines.

Instead of AI, we're IA. Doug: We've got a big kind of AI tool that's studying all these profiles and looking Doug: Yeah, look I mean, I'm an investor in a lot of the AI businesses, but I think, And all of those data transactions are things that AI and bots are many years away from being able to Focusing on information automation, the IA piece, because AI really isn't there yet, so being able to

Aim. Listen. And enjoy this Talroo exclusive. We always talk chat bots in terms of AI. Chat bots are not AI yet. Rick: You've seen the complicated ones that look very real, but it's not really AI I think AI, with all the searches becoming available through Microsoft, Google, Amazon, true AI, I think

Optimal built an enterprise level technology platform, VONQ, Joveo, Idibu, Recruitics, they don't have an AI That goes off into the AI powered machine. We're part AI, part human intervention.

Cheesman: What did you see with interaction with those other solutions, the chatbot or the conversational AI requirements or those screening questions, if you want to get into a little bit more of like utilizing AI

Generative AI is hot, but we'll see how that goes out. I am very skeptical. Chad: Yes.

And now we've got the opportunity of new scale with AI. Where you bring people together whether they're in aircraft engines or in capital, sure, there's some

Could you feel the tension in the air right now? I know I can. as 300 million full-time jobs around the world could be automated in some way by the newest wave of AI functionality would be wise to examine doing it within the realm of a large language or generative AI Italy just ban ChatGPT citing GDPR, access to personal information and privacy, Italy says Open AI doesn't

Gorgeous air. It's a really, it's a really good time of year. Other 11 months, eh? Yes, it is incredibly new and it's incredibly cool, but it's ai, which means it's learning and we're He's on a "How to Regulate AI" panel with a couple of heavy hitters. other one is a senior key expert with the "EU International Outreach for Human-Centric Approach to ai

It ain’t cool being a jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving, but it's definitely cool listening to the Joel (37s): Yeah, it ain't cool being no jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving. Israel is a hub for AI and now companies outside of the U S are grabbing up our companies. So like AI, which we saw, vendors quickly sought out flimsy angles in which to attach diversity, equity What a predictions for a hot term of 2022 we've we've been through AI.

And if you think about it, more users equals more data equals feed the AI machine learning beast, right So with all this AI and machine learning that's out there, we've been talking about and I think we actually That the AI machine learning obviously is one piece but you have to have the data to feed, to learn before the AI is even worth a shit. An AI based skills engine, which has a pretty massive skills ontology.

the future looks like Kyle (13:03.586) Yes, and a lot of search firms, I mean, us included, we use AI important thing to notice about all that is like companies will do that and they will tout, oh, we use AI Kyle (22:30.786) It's the education aspect and letting people know that, surge pricing, getting your airline

anywhere else, he shared a video of a customer talking about dancing in the office or dancing in the aisles They have- Joel: A conversational AI. Chad: ... Coversational AI. Yeah, there you go, they have conversational AI. So, Talent Discovery Platform, a CareerBuilder product, they've added some AI shit, some machine learning Joel: And they've plugged in a new API, AI solution, to add AI to something, like search functionality

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But money man George Larocque ain't scared. Not really, not rushing to market with a product, but exploring AI, seeing, you know, where does it make Is it AI? And what kind of AI? And I mean, the crypto, right? Is getting money. Like what? Now did they bring AI and do they bring machine learning in to make their systems more effective and

We're seeing a lot of consolidation, conversational AI and platforms like DEEL, and Oyster sucking out They promise AI that identifies candidate skills then uses the skills for job matching. And some of the others that we've talked about on the show, maybe there's magic in that AI that they're From our friends at Aim Group, LinkedIn has added a tool to its hiring platform that provides recruiters in August of 2021 that lets recruiters deliberately hide photos and names of job candidates with the aim

Chad (22m 38s): I believe the pivot in much like Shon said during the FeatuRama, they trained their AI of computer scientists from Purdue University are leading a controversial new four year study using AI And I know they're trying to couch this in saying that, you know, we are using AI to scan photos, to Chad (34m 47s): You know, this, the university of Washington, AI researcher actually suggested that the And I think I'm reminded you, you hammer a lot about transparency in algorithms and AI and the sort of

So John Nieman, he really does push us to look at automation technology, AI first.

And the vision that he laid out for everybody was sort of this entire soup-to-nuts AI powered search It's machine learning, AI, whatever you want to put into it, right, but it's been incredibly successful big term for a very long time, but it didn't matter because we didn't have the machine learning and AI Chad: It says AI, so they're automatically going to get money. So AI, automation, chat bot, here's $14 million, okay, good luck to them.

But you had a couple of stories around AI, which I think is actually your first love. Chad: Now doesn't this seem like hyper AI machine learning group think That was also something that you brought up that I felt was a really good transition into this AI block And so what Dynamic Yield does is it's an AI company and they spent $300 million, and they're doing a lot of what I think this AI is gonna be doing in retail, automating a lot of processes.