I'm, I'm substantially less than that list of titles, but yeah, actually I, a good way to like spring board Because from the point of view of a worker, you know, finding a job, as good as a job that you got is You've got to both spend some time searching jobs, are complicated. And so that means the jobs that perfectly substitute for each other, a few and far between. , but women would not move locations for their jobs and employers know that.

Well, ATMs are going to take the job of every bank teller. Guess what? It's taken some jobs and it's created a lot of new jobs. So I think we'll just see more of that. same way that all the women that I know will now immediately look and say, "Is there a female on the board ago when that started, but they weren't eligible to work right away and it was hard to get them on board 'Cause a lot of these jobs are fruit picking as well. They're carers.

So that's the mentality that CFOs, CEOs, board members, investors have that HR says, but wait, it's not Joel (25:59.175) The technology promise to enable you to manage pay, on board, do everything that you There is no job security anymore anywhere, right? Well, Nobody's got job security anymore. The only job security you can get is if you're a top performer.

It's time to transform the way you think about job advertising and join the revolution. companies like Lyft, Pinterest, Airbnb, Twitch, et cetera, hire more underrepresented groups across the board The next is like, I'm actively wanting to leave my job, therefore I'm interviewing. Are you working with more diverse job sites? Seats based and are there other integration prices to be able to integrate into different job boards

I mean, I just think that's, the people will rescale and there'll be different jobs for people to play So yeah, the other thing I'm really thankful for is something that most of us have gotten on board with boards were a fad or that newspapers would just go online and crush the job sites. I could go on and on, but human nature's inability to respect the underdog keeps our job interesting It's companies who refuse to get on board with the way that things are changing and what they're going

formerly known as LocalJobNetwork), who just went through a rebrand and recently acquired America's Job Patrick (0s): Not only are we gaining roughly a thousand customers from America's job exchange, which And I think the roots of our businesses a job board provider and brand of local job network really didn't We share it with our board and I would tell you we're, we're not where we need to be. I'm talking about state and local job backs, federal job banks.

Chad (2m 5s): Did he also tell you that he had applied for a job within the organization or something against Google for Jobs in the EU. So like agencies, board, I mean, like what would your strategy be here? Accent is really focused on fixed jobs. I used to work for a job board and I told my boss, I said, pay-per-click is coming.

I'm sure it's gonna recommend jobs, it's gonna help you through your job search. collar jobs, but like other algorithmic hiring tools before them, experts and job applicants worry these I don't think those job seekers ever applied for a job before in their life, because if they had to go in 30 days, unless they don't want a job. He will be the chairman of the advisory board, applying his leadership and expertise to various aspects

Yeah, I for one believe that AI will be a net ad to jobs as opposed to a subtraction. Chad Sowash (12:34.044) Well, Brass Ring's not going to give you the data on how jobs are evolving. They're just going to show you what jobs are being taken by by AI slash agents slash whatever. They can't tell you what job is going to be created, right? So enormous amount of jobs. So we're not here to answer sort of the global job question.

With deepfakes already being used by bad actors to ace job interviews and infiltrate company systems, So we could see job descriptions, we could see. people applying for those jobs, all of the conversations When people are looking for jobs, you know, they're desperate. They sort of, you know, pause reality in hopes of getting that perfect job. , so they're applying for jobs in AI companies or really tech companies, and pretending to be like an

Neither is talking job, but it's respectable. So good luck. So it's you have talk and job or talk and job or like, isn't that a little bit confusing? So was like Shprekin and job or something, not an option. So talk end job with the letter N, end job dot com does not resolve. You guys don't own that. That means once people create a job, in the same time, a dedicated link to this job is going to be created

Being in HR right now is like being the drummer on the Titanic—your job is to keep things upbeat while And that's driving a lot of people crazy and people are afraid of losing jobs. We are pushing out immigrants who are doing jobs and now we have all these jobs that are open. You mentioned the declining number of jobs on platforms like indeed.com. If you're the job hunter and you're you're their silence.

I mean, I think when you look at employee sentiment across the board, I think it's safe to say that most At some level, that's not their job. We can ask the question, how do we do a better job of developing our people? How do we do a better job of retaining our people? I often say that I have 15 different jobs and I'm involved in a lot of different things.

That's your job and nobody does it better. That's another. Amazing one. Like that was how you got a job. And people keep saying it's going to take jobs. They talk about the face-to-face jobs are still going to flourish. Even those jobs as the lawyer jobs or the sales jobs that come back, it's all going to be different,

Instead of building job boards, fuck that, there's enough job boards, get into programmatic and make All these jobs look the same. Ugh, next. job descriptions? s search to start their job hunt. Search jobs." Then you click on the ad and it takes you to Yahoo! Although, I guess it's effective, people hate their job, they'll go.

. 😬 We’re talking real engagement—like actually caring about the job—and spoiler alert: it’s not about Boards want shareholder returns. Like they actually are more capable at the job. We think, if I get paid a lot of money, there's a lot of jobs I could do until you do those jobs and realize there's no amount of money that would make you want to do that job.

And they're like, "Oh we're a job board." Rick: Right but that doesn't do anything to change the truth behind a passive board that has time based job ads. side, if you produce good enough content that doesn't pander, you are going to get recognized on those boards Rick: Our bread and butter as far as job boards? Joel: No, for social.

And then leveraging technology, not just to make our jobs easier and to be more efficient for our teams Joel: There's been some pitfalls recently with AI on the job seeker side and lazy applying, like applying to thousands and thousands of jobs. upfront, asking some pre-screening questions to make sure that those individuals who are applying for jobs , they actually meet the requirements for the job?

and more than 200 billion historical job performance data points to predict the optimal job advertising for that job. a more engaging experience, or you can't see obviously, but more engaging experience like a job board Well, first of all, show me software engineering jobs. Don't show me product management jobs. how many older job seekers?

If they're not getting calls from ATSes and job boards about acquisition or how can we partner together The job board doctor literally tweets at us about 20 times while he's listening. You pull them in, they've got a job, they go through job training and boom, they've got a job for three Take a look at the job descriptions, we talked about that on the predictions show too, job descriptions Certain people are better than others even though they have the same job.

The video part's really hard to get on board with. Joel: Well, either way. boards by focusing on buying Indeed because they can get more money out of their network and then obviously All while cutting off job boards and staffing companies. JobAdX has been helping small to medium businesses get their job ads in front of targeted active job These are hard fucking jobs.

level administration jobs are gone. If I am a job seeker and I land on a job site with only 4192 jobs, I'm closing out that tab. Then there's the job matching aspect with only 4000 jobs in your database. But when you look at the jobs, they have great jobs. They have some jobs at United Nation. They have some jobs out and those jobs are open to all kinds of, a very diverse public.

Good job, Sean. Jen. Chad (10:35.064) You He's our favorite bottom. Raz, the founders accused by the board of having Chad (12:19.384) Mm-hmm. Chad (12:35.394) Yeah. monitoring scraping job data directly from corporate sites. So yes, the BLS jobs data, which reported 818,000 jobs, fewer jobs between April 20, 2023, Joel (24:20.494 or 172,000 jobs a month.

PhD from MIT, Bachelors from Duke, tons of boards and all that good stuff. I have been running companies for about 25 years or founding them as a founding board member or CEO. and job functions. They have jobs. We don't want people who are filling out job applications online. And that for the candidate's easier, like I don't want to look at 20 different job boards or whatever

On the Real links platform, that's where you're going to share your jobs. Hey, Joel, we've got this job for you to refer with your network. or those apprenticeship jobs with their fellow network. And we're seeing that across the board now. And it's our job to make sure that we engage them as well.

And that became job chat, it's now Live Chat. Mike: So when we were looking at this deal, we took it to the board and the board Boards. boards that we should look at working with", so Dice happened to be right down the street in San Jose Erik: Go into this big board room and all the executive staff are from Dice is

Essential jobs. But even past that, I mean, the Peace Corps, I don't ... Jobs, association charities around the world, construction jobs, these aren't virtual jobs. jobs, you got really good talent even with shitty jobs, right? And that's not all that uncommon anymore, where the job boards are able to do a pretty decent job of identifying those jobs.

After all of that, get the hell out of my job. Janine Yancey: No, to resolve conflict. Janine Yancey: 2006 is when I stopped my day job of being a lawyer. Joel: Okay. So, how do you actually analyze the jobs to understand what skills are in those jobs in the first place We were looking over their analytics, which they actually presented to their board, the audit committee of their board.

job sites that are not doing well right now. People would click jobs if they went to whatever site and then they would see our jobs. also the recruitology/job case model. So you're seeing now these job case sites pop up. do we get more people to our jobs?

board partners. You have 400 spent it I guess, and moving over to more on boarding retention type tools and for whatever Good job guys. Chad: Yeah, and if you're one of those big database companies that was a job board So. the jobs are pretty sparse.

Because not all companies are ready for performance based jobs. Chad (20:02.817) Yeah, the whole draft board thing still just blows my mind. This is bounty jobs. This is, this has been done for decades. It is, you know, the CEO's job to manage that bloat, right? The board wants my head share. Hell shareholders want my head.

Facebook is moving toward Google for Job types of guidelines for jobs that are actually in their platform board with a focus on employer branding. It's like an ATS lite, free job postings and a free career site. Just pay us when you get hires. asking if it's going to be a thing, it apparently already is a thing, we just haven't quite got on board It's not like a technology or something integrated into this site or posting a job.

boards get hired. They capture job seekers as they're exiting job pages. Some of our listeners might remember Jobs to Careers, or Jobs to Web, sorry. So we focus on job seekers number one, like all product decisions are made first for candidates and job It's just job history. It's like basically their job titles and companies, their career history.

This is experienced across the board. So it requires a real shift on boards. turnover, retention rates, job satisfaction. We're gonna see heightened levels of job dissatisfaction. What are we putting down in our job descriptions as we think about who we want to hire?

Went to Phoenix for a client board. the line, the CEO has changed his mind, he's changed directions, and he's basically saying, get on board And if you have a job, you need a job. I need to feed your children. But these are engineers. Karp believes AI will start taking jobs soon. AI taking jobs means less jobs, needs less people. And it's turned the traditional job market on its head. Emi Beredugo (54:45.096) Mm.

I think in terms of the candidate job search and application experience, my perspective on this, and We want to make sure that their job doesn't suck. too long, I'm at Pizza Hut, or Papa John's, or McDonald's, or any other sort of fast food or hourly job Those things stick with you, and I think that they stay with you in the job search experience. I was always on board with QR codes. Always. Even before COVID.

That marketing of the brand is marketing's job and comms's job and employer brand's job and investor If you go to any big old job board, I don't have to name any names, and I type in my job title, there Are the jobs there in six months to a year? What's your take on the unemployed? We all understand where the jobs are. These are the people with the jobs. Papa John's, he's a schmuck. Great.

You know, if I had to make, I guess, a job board comparison for listeners, to me, this is a little bit The money gives Job and Talent evaluation of $2.35 billion. Job and Talent has raised a total of $1.1 billion. Joel (19m 40s): Can you imagine a salesperson saying, hi, I'm Joel from Job and Talent. I think people will apply for the jobs, they need a job and they want a job, but this is something that's

Joel: For those job postings. If you won't lose your job to AI, you'll lose your job to someone that understands AI. include a job search function. , and there's like an all encompassing search, companies will jump on board to get their jobs on Twitter They call them the C-suite and the board of directors. Right. This is total bullshit.

But what people search for, the types of jobs people search for, the types of jobs people believe they're And so looking at jobs people have already had, jobs they think they might want, jobs they think they're So ZipRecruiter and any other sort of personalized job board, like I said earlier, these technologies And that might end up determining what jobs they see, what jobs they don't see, and kind of guiding people before, and then whose getting a job now.

Joel: Say I'm looking to hire hourly workers for hard-to-fill jobs. Now, let's say I've tried the job boards and all I'm getting is clicks, and I what I really want are Look, with 100 million members in their community, active and passive job seekers, a huge team of data It's changing the job of recruiters from proactively qualifying candidates.

that you get a job." When we send you a job offer, can we give a better offer letter? of match, whether it's job to person, person to job, person to person, et cetera. 20,000 jobs. hopefully you'll hear him having a comfort level from just being introduced in November as coming on board

I think recruiters go, do I really want to put up with this crappy job? It's the people doing the job they want to be successful because that's how they bonus. And now they have to ask questions about job postings. Julie (22m 5s): Because we used it to target job seekers with disabilities and get them fucking jobs. And most job boards have this when you're running searches across them.

Stop clinging to your outdated job descriptions and your "proprietary" secrets. Static job descriptions, static resumes, right? Candidates never really understood what we meant by a job. Chad Sowash: Right. And the funny part is we see surveys all the time where job seekers don't wanna talk to, to chatbots. We threw a job out, that was the most engagement they got, unless they got an interview.

But yeah, I love men with beards. Pull the job. and there's less jobs out there. They're taking their jobs down. Way above the competition on other job sites.

And every time I've butchered your name, Joel: He's the new Job Board Doctor every day, every week, we Joel: Ashley at Joveo is now on the advisory board, I guess, of get optimal, which is a good segment Louise Grant and the Job Board Doctor, Jeff Dickey Chasins, he pulled- SFX: Hell, yeah. Chad: ... doesn't get much attention, but probably should, and probably will get more if more companies jump on board The company said, "About 70% of job seekers are looking for new job opportunities on the mobile devices

"The intel is that after Indeed did their layoffs just last week, we found that their board of directors So, basically it was like laying off 15% of our workforce, just so the board of directors could get 15% There are two categories of directors that they have on board. This is what happens when nobody is actually in charge of a board. Like, people don't leave boards like that. This isn't like, retaining top talent. Chad: No.

A Google for Jobs update shoutout, kids. So it is interesting because this is a Chinese company that everybody is on board of saying, "Let's shut types of jobs. So, good job and at least from the PR team. from an optics standpoint, I don't know what the fucks going on with Benioff, but he's all over the board

And our board gave us permission to be iconic. So you've only been on the job since April. what's the bridge between the product and the interviewing process and the hiring and when they come on board Sales' job is to hit quota in quarter. That is their job. Chad Sowash (16:59.901) They should. Kim (33:10.712) I mean, we work across the board.

I'm curious also in terms of the job promotion and, and how much you're spending on getting jobs out The other thing is, you know, it is these jobs are, are out there and so easy for. You know, I, I can't go in and turn on 5,000 jobs a day based on who needs what. Right. No value in turning on and off a job. Right. None at all. People aren't necessarily lining up to do the job, but you have that challenge.