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I mean, what I'm seeing is almost like this evolution of a job board and staffing company, you did mention Is it the evolution of staffing or is it the evolution of a job board? It's not job board. It's not a marketplace. Like, are you a job board? Are you a staffing company? And we are neither. boards like Monster and others back in the day, no surprises then.

So, by far the job boards lead. investment in job boards, and market places. Chad: Yeah, I mean the job boards already have revenue streams coming in. They're looking to pivot to, I would assume, to evolve past just being a job board. It is a two sided, job board by definition is a marketplace.

JobRight raised millions to unleash job-hunting agents. This feels like newspapers attempt to conform job boards into their old newspaper models, forcing column What I truly see and believe. is that there will be no resumes, there will be no job boards, you will not apply on a job board anymore, you will get on and talk to a virtual agent that'll ask you questions I'll get you the job interviews to find you a job to the point that this week, is the third time it's

Joel (8m 11s): Shout out to the job board doctor. The guy we know and love is Jeff Dickey Chases. He's got a survey that he does every year of job board owners. Number one, duration based job posting still make up over 50% of revenue for job boards. Recession be damned the job boards are pumped. Joel (8m 51s): Shout out to the job board doctor and his survey Chad (8m 56s): Job boards still got money

I know that if I go to Monster.com and I post an ad, or I go to Job Board, a College Recruiter and I You would not want to distribute jobs manually. Each of the job boards, you post it to, right? go to this job board right? board for this location, for this title has a highest likelihood of delivering a hire or even a most We'll never be a job board. We'll never be a staffing agency.

Launched in nineteen ninety-nine as a job fare platform, kind of a job board thingy. And Indeed has bots applying for jobs, not just serving up relevant jobs. Chad Sowash (42:18.174) And are evergreen jobs real jobs? It's as simple as like, is indeed or is is any job board responsible for the jobs posted? for laws, but I think it's really hard to expect that ghost jobs can be policed by job boards.

How do you know that 32% of candidates, are not on other job boards? How do you know that? Mikhil: Simple answer, we work with the job boards. So we know, it's a metric that we measure against, the job boards. So, when I mentioned the 200,000 jobs, and we started with mainly job boards, that we worked with. boards.

Like if I'm in Portugal and I say, you know what, there's there, there aren't any jobs here. I'm going to drive to Germany and look for a job there is that easy? And it only took them a few months to get them their first job, but that's a huge difference. And people, their value is often their job. Those people definitely won't get a job.

So it's a pretty unique job. Joel (5m 13s): Tell us about the difficulty of copying and pasting an ad to multiple job boards? board every day and have them delivered to my desk. And what all the job boards and the resume databases out there were trying to fight against once it started boards that we use today.

Google's learning a lot by having you plug their Search capabilities into your job board or corporate which impacts a lot of you who may be at job boards? I would contend that job boards are becoming less important and commoditized, which I believe, Google Chad: Yeah, see, and I don't believe that because I believe job boards are still strong boards, ATSs, CRM.

She said quote "As the main buyer of Glassdoor from my organization and the other job board who is owned And therefore that belief led to job boards and staffing companies who have a registration process when Joel Cheesman: 'Cause I remember crying with Job Boards in 2010 when Indeed shut them off or made them It's happened to Job Boards as Joel said. It's happened to staffing companies. Julie Calli: It did it to Job Boards, it did it to staffing, who's next? The direct employer.

As I've this this stupid media board that Riverside just installed, it just they it's like they roll And the America's Job Bank was actually created to take jobs and distribute them to all fifty job banks Now, the more malicious side of this is on the job board side, where we're seeing a small amount of job boards scraping jobs off of hiring sites, reposting them on their own job board, and then leading job Is it an evergreen job? Is it not an evergreen job? Right. People are calling them ghost jobs.

So job.com is not a job board. We're a staffing agency. We operate as a staffing agency. But then job.net is our typical job board. It's what I would call an aggregator. You've got a job board, and you've got a recruiting staffing agency. Chad: That job board has matching in it though, too, right? Doesn't matter if you're a job board, staffing agency, you'll be able to query and reference.

boards. The generalistic job boards are, in my opinion, are outdated. You have those commercial job boards, but we mostly use the local ones. But the second one, those job boards, Monster, by the way, is just totally outdated. Chad: It is. boards, which attracts the biggest one, maybe 10,000 visitors a day, which is not that much.

I went to this Harry Potter-like boarding school in the north of Scotland and then made my way... No way to use job boards well 'cause the data isn't there. You can't really assess people's skills. There are a lot of types of positions that automatically went online, they went to job boards and so But we do see ZipRecruiter, Indeed, all the obvious job boards. boards, RPOs, staffing agencies, et cetera.

big this quarter job boards is every quarter and month. And, and investors, I think yeah, that's why job boards and talent acquisition do well. Just start a job board. Chad: God, he's reaching. Now you've got these job boards, they're coming out and they're blending education and job boards. So is your answer to the young entrepreneur a specialized job board?

It's gonna kill job boards, you won't need job boards anymore, et cetera. And that's a big difference from like, we don't even compete with job boards, Joel, right? Joel (27m 17s): And that's advertising on Facebook and Instagram, not job boards or? Amit (27m 25s): Well, Pandologic is job boards specific, Joel. But on the chess board of life, my friend, you want to be the queen, and to be the queen on the board

And it's probably better than whatever job board you're using. Trust me, it is. And over 4,000 job boards and companies are currently using Google's API to do that. It's basically Google Search on these job boards and company pages. So it's an API, job boards, and also applicant tracking systems. Joel: So the job boards will catch up.

point for job boards, and for clients direct. And so it's not just becoming a job board and being the largest job board. But that's across all job boards, and you can say that for any job board, because there's not as many for jobs now, they're moving job boards out of it anyway. It's not just a simple as putting a job on one of the job boards anymore.

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These quit rates are at all-time highs at 3% for all employees across the board, but it's particularly The monthly jobs report that gets all this press attention about, you know, how many jobs we created And also the jobs that nobody wants to do. Andrew (24m 55s): Also with your job ad content, really paying attention to job titles, selling yourself And we have a lot of advice on job ad content.

, pharma jobs, engineering jobs, and the list goes on. feeds from job boards and staffing companies because it was better for the job seeker, although if the job boards or staffing companies paid the ransom, then Indeed allowed their jobs on the site, which Chad (27m 15s): Then Indeed re-engineered from a job search engine to a job board when introducing the to apply in one click and gave them an interstitial job description, landing page, just like a job board

Joel (03:51.578) Unlimited scroll on Google now for jobs and a link to jobs. I think that particularly with high turnover jobs, seasonal jobs, hourly jobs, those could go away. And I can remember circa 2010, the first sort of scare shot across the bow of job boards. Joel (36:42.362) when they started ranking direct employer jobs higher than they did job board jobs. And job boards freaked out because the free traffic that they enjoyed was now gone.

Company X, IBM, who's on our board of directors needs a software engineer in New York who makes 150K. He's just more of a job board. Again, our structure is completely different. Because ultimately that's the same structure as LinkedIn or any other job board. Carol Gordon, who's one of the heads of human resources IBM is on our board of directors a guy named We're in conversations with another, I can't mention their name, large job board where we believe that

boards and then staffing and now they're really kicking off job boards and then staffing is getting It's interesting because they differentiated themselves from job boards by being a job search engine and now they've come full circle and there they are, really a traditional job board. But, I also think that it puts job boards in a situation where they can get the job posting that's on So where do you see job boards say five, 10 years from now?

So if I am a board member, I'm looking for a replacement, a capable replacement who knows. I've, you know, the, the job board doctor is really quiet these days. All this stuff is going on and yet this is the original job board job search agent that we had over 25 Joel Cheesman (44:52.73) It's a co branded job board, Chad, how innovative your thoughts? I don't know if it was like competitive, like put job boards out of business or like stick it to whatever

So arguably what we're saying is like no more recruiters, we're not a job board and we're not a staffing Brad (4m 17s): If you think about, you know, we are, you know, kind of from a job board perspective, Almost think about a convergence of a VMS system, an MSP system, as well as a job board all into one board industry as they came in and they now own it. And again, think Indeed what they were to job boards back 15 years ago.

Dennis Tupper was on board with Joel's prediction that didn't happen. And then Richard Collins, believe it or not, I can't believe this didn't happen he said a major job board board or not so that don't even make the requirement. So they're really not a major job board. Chad (7m 38s): So that was last year. boards, so it's difficult to kind of say how you would spin that.

From Social media to video recruiting to job board investment to all things pandemic, this year's is However, according to your survey and this really popped out to me as well, is that job board investment What exactly is a job board? boards that would certainly surprise me, but I'm curious your take on the job board increase. Just trying to find the job boards who are really diversity types of, they don't just have it in their

Chris Russell, a job board industry veteran brings HR Lancers, an "HR Marketplace" to Firing Squad. board? Chad: A traditional job board, you can actually see as a marketplace? Chris: Yes. So they are, in a sense, of job board but it's just essentially a private one. board is.

job descriptions? "Talent.com is the first step toward our goal to become the number one job board in the planet within It was like back in the day with the Monster board and OCC. great jobs. and ranking hiring Google for Jobs or looking at jobs as why don't we have salary on your job.

It's now the newest job board in America. They're basically a job board with an ATS. Yes, I'm using air quotes, kids. So why would I use a job board to do that? When I can do it on my own site, right? The future is not going to search for a job, look for, look at the job, apply the, that game is played If people who are graduating now can't find a starter's job because starter jobs are just disappearing

take your job." Joel: And that's not good for job boards. Michael Goldberg: No, it's not. Joel: Okay. Okay. They could be sourcing from job boards. Michael Goldberg: Indeed. It's the most thankless job. I don't know of any jobs, but I'm happy to help you network.

jobs? and job boards, end quote, which is counter to number nine. boards such as LinkedIn and indeed Chad, Nothing Burger or Big Chad Sowash (36:26.546) Nothing Burger So job advertisements on the job board there in seek or down 35 percent which means their revenue was on jobs.

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board supremacy. And they'll keep going until there are no more job boards left, I guess. Chad (23:44.582) and talking about how she went along the job search, went about the job search. I'm pretty sure in the release it talked about that he was going to be on the advisory board or he wasn't Beast should call the job board doctor and I think it'll all be okay.

Next on the board is Wreckfest in the UK. You're gonna be there. Are you excited? board with PaperClick. board doctor, so wash. boards to win clients back. Could be a net positive for the job board ecosystem.

- CareerBuilder goes down - Oprah is giving everybody a FREE job board (Ok it's not Oprah) - Google's Traditional job board pivoting out of bad business into more technology-based solutions. board. Free job boards. It was almost like Oprah. You get a job board, you get a job board, but who cares because job boards are getting killed right now

And I think that this is an elementary kind of like step forward for Total Jobs, which is a job board It's really just an evolutionary play for a job board. Oh, okay, cool. And you're talking about used pretty much on an island on a job board of total jobs, versus being able board. For sure, whether it's job boards, social, or even texting with candidates.

you've got these portfolio companies, you got these CEOs, and you're moving the pieces on the chess board board context where you're competing against other employers. And those attraction engines might actually be happening out on job boards, but you need to soften it So the traditional metrics will never compare to job board world. The intent of job seekers on job boards is so high cuz they're on a job board that you won't match the

Let's talk about what jobs Chad, what a London based job search engine founded in 2019 will launch in Like it's really, really hard to have a job board. and cut through the noise and the clutter and make Like, was it, mean, well, 30,000 sites, I think, but I think he's, said 10,000 job boards. and I don't Joel (26:25.298) every location, every job, like all the SEO stuff. so like you have your job cut out What kind of job board today that wants to break into America? It doesn't have a TikTok.

boards popping up on the .jobs domains, which didn't happen before. the job board industry about what exactly it means to traffic numbers. board industry and he posts his findings from job boards. The thing that they've really gotta focus on, job board owners, job site owners, is how they interface , so I wouldn't be surprised if a job board that was really doing a good job of getting its postings

. - Google faces the music in Europe as job board owned take aim with accusations of antitrust. It's an engineering kind of job board thing is the best I can explain it. I'm sure. He had a nice article called Tale of Two Job Boards this week where he, I don't know, he took a Dice So Tale of Two Job Boards, if you haven't checked it out, go, go read that and learn something, kids. boards or these different job sites are actually better experiences.

Joel: Was it just like, "Here's our book of 3000 Job Boards."? board. boards. [crosstalk 00:09:58] it's amazing how much money is being put into job boards today. What can you do, from a technology standpoint, to be able to take this old, crusty job board shit and

board. Indeed also creates as a job board, right. Joel: Are you saying they're a job board primarily? When you think about where the space is going overall, I think job boards are getting commoditized more We also provide publishers and job boards higher rev share than other partners through our smarter programmatic

And I said well, "Can you do the same aggregation for commercial job board." In the job board space, probably not great. Joel: Okay. We've got one of the best response rates of any job board I've ever seen. Joel: Well that makes sense, so we're talking about job board, job board, job board , there are tons of start-ups that are out there that aren't job boards.

sites and other boards. But I think they took that on for the partnership and for the, you know, the board and the advice as boards that had been around for a long time. I think, you know, if some of the other larger job boards would've done the same, it certainly would've became, okay, not job boards anymore, not staffing companies anymore.

CareerBuilder dumps MC and if you thought job boards were worthless, wait till you hear what someone Joel: Mac Pritchard, who we met at TATech in Vegas, a job board owner As we've actually talked to job board owners and job site owners and whatnot over the last month and, When I talked about these different job boards or these different job sites, or whatever, recruitment on all these job boards that also show up?

Worked with both international and local job boards in the late '90s and early 2000s. One that comes to my mind is Jobbing Video. I don't know if you remember Jobbing Video. Chad: Who was around long enough to remember Jobbing Video? Joel: Who remembers Jobbing? Joel: Well, Jobbing was a job board, headquartered out in the southwest. Even if you're a job board, do you even want to have that proprietary tech?

back to the US because on the 20th through the 21st, Joe and I are going to be at Paradox's client board So if you go to Andreessen Horowitz, his website, they have a job board. Joel Cheesman (30:54.25) The job board has all their companies that they've invested in and all the jobs Uh, they had 630 companies and 8,729 jobs listed. That's about 13 jobs per company. or 18 jobs per company.