I mean, 'cause it feels like we're clawing our way out. Hendrik Schmahl: Yes. Joel: Right? So as each company has to deal with it. Yeah. Which is a bit difficult for Americans to deal with. Yeah. Chad: What an optimistic, feel good way to close this interview with Hendrik Schmahl everybody.

Well, I just like to say that it feels good being the king of all media. No big fucking deal. You sleep in a truck, you probably have, you got to deal with road rage. Joel (35m 31s): You got to deal with long hours. Joel (40m 44s): So much today makes me feel so old.

And we literally had to jump into a taxi, come back to the lawyer's office to sign this deal at midnight We're getting this big biro to sign this deal. Joel (02:47.648) Always sandbaggin' us. We think that the per hired thing is it just doesn't feel right, does it? I know your ability to bootstrap is deep, but if you're going to build a platform, that usually means

I mean, the algorithm is not coming with the deal. So we'll see, but that will be part of the deal to understand the algorithm itself. Let's say for instance, how the deal might be structured. I'm not sure. Why you don't have to if they feel like they're trapped, right? If they don't feel like they're trapped anymore, a lot of things can happen.

Joel: I feel like I just watched a Netflix trailer. Okay, since we've gotten so deep, so fast, I'm going ask a very deep question. They're looking for a deal. They're cheap. Let's be honest about it. Or are they going to say, "That deal's better." Chad: Language, that's the one. Are you enhancing your NLP capability so that it feels more engaging and feels more human-like.

Deal with it. Joel Cheesman (07:59.729) Clearly you get very animated about everything, Quincy. Like, it feels to me like we're going to robots interviewing robots no matter what we do, right or wrong in enterprise quite frequently are like, oh, this is cheap This is nothing and those who deal in I've But once they got them in, they still had to talk to them because there was still a feeling there's a But the organization is not feeling the impact of better talent.

Chad Sowash: So, tell us about Maker Life because it feels like your journey that you just talked through Lord Nat Wei: So, if this actually feels like really at home, being here today and what is become evident You have to learn to deal with ambiguity, right? And then ask questions. So I think it will feel a bit less dystopian if we get it right and a lot more, this is about making to put down much better, 'cause the robots can't feel yet.

you go on the website and you look at a Bartaco and the videos and all that, that's really what you feel Chad: Dealing with these technologies. Is that easy? Sheri Zippo: We're a big tech side. And I feel like that's the path we're going. It comes from a very genuine place. Joel: I feel like she's saying the Taco Bell training system doesn't sync with the Bartaco. Maybe Del Taco, maybe Chipotle, but no Taco Bell.

So the market powers on the employee side, do we really feel like this is permanence or will it shift Do you look at it and go, oh shit, we got to deal with Americans now coming and giving American wages Terms of the deal were not disclosed, which means it must have been too large for our modal brains to So I asked the Europeans was this deal as huge as these two companies make it out to be or what? So I feel it's maybe not the biggest deal in the history of HR, in the Netherlands, but it's interesting

And here's the deal. They will go ahead and spend $30,000 of engineering money per integration. Because you're a deep dude. You're a smart dude.

But I have to say that when Harard called me about a week ago, about a week before announcing the deal competitors, they are happy as happy can be, and they should be, because you know, or at least you feel Chad Sowash (24:57.097) Number one, they didn't want to deal with another applicant tracking system. And I'm starting to feel kind of some sympathy for them. I really didn't know them. That's what this feels like.

You mean even when you don't feel like it. Chad (1m 46s): Yeah. Yeah. I feel like if you look, you know, we're always looking for an enemy. Have we evolved from that or do you feel like we're still in that mentality? Jackye (25m 5s): It's deep. The system is deep. So how do you deal with that?

With Sovren, matching isn't some frustrating "black box, trust us, it's magic, one shot deal" like all Yes, you're invited, but there are other people who are not like me who feel otherwise.

I feel I'm missing out on something. So, shout-out to all the Candys in the world. It feels like I'm explaining 1994 to a job board. I mean, Google has been dealing with these litigious Europeans for over a decade. Chad: Deep pockets. Joel: This is ridiculous. They feel their competitive... They've got a competitive disadvantage.

I mean, I just feel we should be paying them something for that privilege. AKKA Technologies in a deal worth 2 billion euros. This is the biggest deal in the Swiss staffing companies, 25 year history. Joel (30m 20s): So no word that other companies were sort of dealing the price up higher? I don't think there'll be a lot of starving people out of this deal. Chad (31m 14s): No.

And it's a company that I'm, feel so lucky to work for. 'Cause it truly is mission driven. Or they, and I can go to them and we just have this, I feel really thankful but I did make sure that But I couldn't do that with a dust deal, the ATS. Audra Knight: So you, so knowing that, and then after we feel like we have our pitch, we bring that to 'Cause I feel like I'm seeing some companies that are like, we're so diverse, and they're not.

So Kombo feeling pretty special right now saying that's right. Emi, is this announcement a big deal, little deal, or no deal at Emi Beredugo (27:31.254) OK, so I think for StepStone, it's obviously a big deal. It kind of feels like that Detmers is lavishing. I feel like that's the big lesson learned here. Be nice.

When I make, when I make notes at night, I'm usually about two or three bourbons deep and I have all And so I'm glad that they're trying to swing for something, but it still feels very much as Chad was Joel Cheesman (20:28.39) It feels very paradox when you look at demos of what Indeed is building. That's what JobRite feels like to me. Everybody wants to feel like the star and there's an agent representing me.

Can feel it, yeah. Angad Madra: Sunburn. Chad Sowash: Yeah. Joel Cheeseman: Feel like I'm in between a couple of Ban roll-on deodorants. So the strategy there was not to sit around, wait for a store to be open, but was to build really deep Is there any way that you think the healthcare system is actually gonna move that far down, deep into

I think find a place that you can feel comfortable being yourself and then also allowing yourself to So we're diving in deep in that right now. We've done a lot of research and focus groups. And having events and bringing and inviting family members of our employees, so they feel a sense of safety and feel a sense of community in a place that they can call home. So, really creating this opportunity that the employee experience where they feel safe, and they feel

JT ODonnell (01:06.104) Yeah, I just feel like it's the season of picnics. So it's, it's the seaweed and it, shape it as a taco and then you deep fry it. like a deep dive into their lives and how they really suck. anyway, great acting, great storytelling But if you have any Italy tips for me out there in listener land or JT, feel free to drop those on me And I feel like there's a lot of parallels between like dating apps and hiring.

We are going deep in Vegas everybody. Holy crap, holy crap. Omar's Ice House. Rippling, uh, deals favorite, uh, competitors and talks to raise it a $13 billion valuation. They're going to fare pretty much the same, I feel, that they did this time. Joel (11:34.544) Yeah. I feel about CV Wallet sort of like I do every other crypto. So, so, so, so Bayeris really interesting because this just feels like a lazy restructure.

So it is upsetting, it is hard and I do feel for those people. Cause you want your $5 meal deal and you're okay to be at a kiosk and kind of deal with some shit. And it doesn't feel. Joel Cheesman (23:43.833) Mm-hmm. and help you feel safe. So for me, this is actually a big deal.

SHRM who are on the Talent Acquisition and HR side, their hands went up quickly, but yet they didn't feel Just like, again, IBM computer, Big Blue beating, or Deep Blue beating Garry Kasparov, right? Joel: It's as big a deal in Europe as it is in the States. when we talk to you guys, if this is overwhelming, I think imagine what your customers and prospects feel Chad: Everybody else looked at us, everybody else looked at us like they had deer

Those are, those are we're, we're dealing with larger companies for the most part. It looks like we'll be, we're working right now to get a deep ring with Bullhorn on something that I'm Is this a text deal killer?

Did you feel the tension in the air right now? I know I can. I can feel it all the way down in my plums. Joel: That's right, Chad. It feels like total disarray. Recruit Holdings is buying some makeup company or make... You wonder how the founders of Alio and Maya feel right about now. Yes, two Dutch companies making a deal happen. So full disclosure, we love Textkernel.

What we've had to deal with over the last 20 years. And so when you asked me, how do I feel? How'd you feel? And I feel like the Republic was pushed to the limit for the most part, it held. Otherwise it's going to just feel like the same old, same old, and nothing's going to be done.

So I'm gonna go with them and say like, this is a pretty big fucking deal. Joel: Yeah, for sure, and the terms of the deal were not disclosed. They're a full meal deal, you get everything. Joel: I feel so badly for young people because we didn't have this shit when we have to deal with this.

Joel: That's deep. That's deep. Chad: It is a deep book. And just a reminder, once again, In deed's doing this for staffing. Joel: To me this feels like Indeed is just sort of gradually screwing everybody Joel: And deep throat on it. Chad: Don't do that. It's takes about two seconds and feel similarly to getting your ear pierced? Sounds great.

What's it feel like? JT ODonnell (02:14.648) Amazing. There's a pattern. Chad Sowash (03:49.473) So yeah, I know how that feels. I know the mood thing. It feels a little risky to me, but I understand why they're doing it. Chad Sowash (42:08.097) Okay, this one's gonna get deep kids. It's so deep, but it was so good. So stick with him.

Explain how deep AllyO goes into the recruitment process. So give us a step by step. Ankit: So those are the three places I feel AI is involved. The second part is going deep. So I'll give you an example. Interview scheduling. So we go deep in our technology. Right now we are in I would say deep deployments, trying to prove larger value.

So we do monthly pay equity audits, which I feel really good about. And I feel really strongly about allyship. And the more they feel like they are truly included and have a feeling of inclusion and belonging, the Yeah, I feel really good about that. Now, Kate is a female CEO. Joel (42:22.759) What a feel-good moment to end a Chad and Cheese episode.

58s): Chad and I touched on this story on our weekly show, but like most shows, we go about an inch deep Can we deal with technology? Can we do it with mentorship programs? Cuz I don't wanna deal with this shit. Julie (31m 58s): `I think they realized how deep the rabbit hole of danger can be as this industry is

O'Donnell, and Lieven dive into a workforce landscape that feels more like a digital battlefield than I feel pretty good about this this week. JT ODonnell (02:20.56) Let's hope so, let's hope so. Lieven (16:01.952) And the Americans should feel that more musia. It might educate you. Let's put somebody who talked a great game, who you know, makes everybody feel some hope. And then doing like the deep dive into what happened and figuring it out because I don't feel like we

Have you had to deal with them or? It's not that big of a deal. Okay. So from the press release, here we go. So Peter, why is this a big deal? Peter (28m 51s): I'm not convinced it is to be honest. Peter, how you feeling about a little, myGwork? I always feel like somebody is watching me.

How are you feeling about this season? Blair Fambro: I'm feeling good. You know what? So real deep down personal question. How did that feel? Did that feel like, oh man, here we go. Promised land. Joel: Was your mom proud? It didn't feel real, right? And one of the things, it's my pet peeve, if you feel a certain way, tell me how you feel.

That's a deep discount. Lieven: That's a deal. I know, I know. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I feel a little differently about Bubty. Lieven: Nah, I feel kind of different.

Towards Justice, a nonprofit legal organization that defends workers on and on their way to being knee deep This case sort of applies to all users and deals with the right to both to privacy and to transparency And I think that that in itself is a credit report under the definition of the credit report. it feels And I do, I think it feels very invasive to people and it's, I think, pretty clearly covered by these suit clients who want to reach out to you, want to find out more on what they should do because they feel

I'm not trying to deal with that right there. So, you know, I just feel like we can absolutely do what needs to be done. So it's all a matter of what people deem to be important and worthy. And it feels like there should be a Lincoln Project for equality. So I feel like are doing a good job.

I'm not as knowledgeable as some of the folks like Kevin Wheeler and others who really spend a great deal Well Japan is a whole different set of issues and we were very fortunate to be able to dig pretty deep compensation because last year, a woman who was working 80 hours a week and then went home and had to deal

Yeah, I don't I don't disagree. just I almost feel this is scary. No, just, it just feels like we can, why not? You know, it's crazy. You feeling okay over there? like, what? Just saying, what, right? Like, I know, you feeling okay? Yeah, lots of people sitting on their heels for sure. Cause I feel like that's the age when that happens.

And then there is a lot of other data we get from Google, Bing, GitHub, you know, we have a deal with : So being pretty comprehensive solution, especially when you're dealing You can find them, but we don't match unless we feel confident enough. AI ... so all I'm saying is, so our hope of differentiation is that given our backgrounds, given our deep Chad: So how do you deal with that?

The latest - Recruitics acquiring KRT Marketing - is the fourth similar deal in just a month. And this is, I believe the fourth deal like this in the last month. They were more heavy on the tech side than they were the agency side, I feel. Once Appcast went, everyone knew what their price tag was and deals were starting to get done. Get acquired, have deep integrations, but they have to do something.

The duo dives deep into Rippling’s bold Super Bowl debut featuring Tim Robinson, debating whether the So I feel good about it. You have to see what needs to feel good. Retention and recruitment of people. You can't like, this is a thing you have to deal with and they're going to be technologies. I feel cold. It's cold and corporate, whatever.

SFX: Can you feel the tension in the air right now? I know I can. I can feel it all the way down to my plums. But why is this a big deal? Joel: Yeah, Google went deep on this. Finally, I feel safe using LinkedIn.

And if things are going to slow down in Germany, the Belgians will feel it also. This is a deep cut by me and if... Chad Sowash: Oh my God. Anyway, that's my deep cut on XING. Chad Sowash: Wow! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Chad Sowash: That feels like this entire episode thus far, Joel.

Mikhil: Yeah, so what I mean by that really is, there's no end to end mobile solution, which deals with And they deal with an enterprise, but the candidate when they go on there has to create their CV off, Except that they deal with SMBs and they don't effectively help that candidate create the CV and go through Julie can be more supportive and we feel that's a more comprehensive, solution for the candidate. So we deal with enterprise employers.

Social media has made it to where people want to know more about who they're dealing with and part of

You as a customer, What were your feelings when you first heard about the acquisition and what have you candidate would click on apply here now and then they would go to an opt in page and they could learn about deals for apartments, deals for single family homes, deals for shopping searches, basically local deals. Chad: Take care of your deals or what have you.

So can I feel successful at work? Can I feel purposeful? And are there opportunities for advancement? Feeling connected to your work, feeling purposeful, feeling values alignment in what you're doing. work that we do, because I feel like we're kind of a force against that trying to be, sometimes I feel So I feel like there's a real missed opportunity there.